View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Sat Oct 10, 2015 6:29 am

Forum rules

The Common Ground is not a place for debate. It is a place for discussion, not discord.

Any topics found not in line with building a common ground will be handled by the moderator TheManOfReal.

Do not do contrast comparisons with religions which will result in division and not unity.

EXAMPLE: The Muslim Jesus vs. The Christian Jesus

INSTEAD: Common Perceptions of Jesus

We are here to see where we agree not where we differ.

Reply to topic  [ 1 post ] 
 Manifestations of One true Lord. 
Author Message

Joined: Tue Sep 08, 2009 2:25 am
Posts: 1856
Has thanked: 8 times
Been thanked: 11 times
Unread post Manifestations of One true Lord.
Manifestations of One true Lord.

Muslims after the name of every Prophet writes “ (p.b.u.h.)” which is short form of, Peace be upon him. Why do they do that? It is because they love and respect each Prophet equally. We have definite affinity between Judaism, Christianity and Islam, the three great Semitic religions.

Religions of the world can be widely divided into two groups:

Semitic Religions: Judaism, Christianity and Islam – all of which are Prophetic Religions.

The Non Semitic Religions: Further divided into Aryan and Non- Aryan Religions.

Semitic Group: Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Combined, these three religions give us Unity of God.

In the Fundamentalism of teachings of Muhammad (peace be upon him), Jesus (peace be upon him.) and Moses (peace be upon him.) there is not an iota of difference. Note: We said fundamentalism of teachings of Muhammad, Jesus and Moses (Peace be upon them.) not the teachings of Judaism, Christianity and Islam. Mark the words, there is huge difference.

When we speak of fundamentalism, like First Commandment, it is same for all three great Prophets.

Moses (peace be upon him):

The following verse from Deuteronomy of Moses (peace be upon him)
“Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhad”

It is a Hebrew quotation which means

“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord” [The Bible, Deut 6:41]

Jesus ( peace be upon him.)

He repeated what Moses (peace be upon him) had said, namely:

“Shama Israelu Adonai Ila Hayno Adna Ikhat”.

This is a Hebrew quotation, which means:

“Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord.” (Mark 12:29)

Muhammad (peace be upon him. ) :

Some 600 yrs later after Jesus (peace be upon him) a Christian deputation came to Prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) in Medina and they had a dialogue for three days and three nights in Masjid e Nabawi. These Christians slept, ate and discussed with Prophet for three days and three nights. During the course of discussion of this dialogue a spokesman from Christian placed a question. He asked “What is your concept of God?”

Muhammad (peace be upon him) replied in Arabic:

Qul huwa Allahu ahadun
Allahu alssamadu
Lam yalid walam yooladu
Walam yakun lahu kufuwan ahadun

“Surah Ikhlas which is Chapter 112 of the Holy Qur’an:

1. “Say: He is Allah, The one and Only.2. “And there is none like unto Him.”
3. “Allah, the Eternal, Absolute. 4. “He begets not, nor is He begotten.

Note the startling resemblance between the languages, very often the same sounding words carry identical meaning in both.

Hebrew Arabic English
Ikhud ; Ahud ; one

The word translated "one" in the above verse is the Hebrew IKHAD. This word is the same as the Arabic AHAD. It means one whole, indivisible. All three Prophets emphasized on the word “ ONE”

The difference between Hebrew word and Arabic word is only of Pronunciation.

According to Muslims in regard of fundamentalisms there is ‘no’ such thing as separate Christianity, Judaism and Islam. There is only Islam .

In Quran Allah says’ :

The Religion before God is Islam (submission to His Will): Nor did the People of the Book( Jews and Christians ) dissent there from except through envy of each other, after knowledge had come to them. But if any deny the Signs of God, God is swift in calling to account. (The Noble Quran, 3:19)"

"...This day have I perfected your religion for you, completed My favour upon you, and have chosen for you Islam as your religion....(The Nobel Quran, 5:3)"

So what about Christianity, Judaism? Don’t they exist?

Yes of course they exist but not by name.

The point is Moses( peace be upon him) didn’t say he was preaching Judaism nor did Jesus (peace be upon him) say he came for Christianity. Who are we to name religion of God?

The Word Judaism:

Where did the word come from? Is it in Tanakh , Torah , Bible , Talmud ? No its not there! Where did you get it? People have different theories. However whatever theory is, Moses (peace be upon him) didn’t use the word.

If you meet Moses (peace be upon him) in hereafter and ask him “Oh, Moses (peace be upon him) what was your religion? What was the name of religion which you were teaching?”

I don’t except him to say Judaism because the poor man never used that name in his life. What I except him to say is “ My religion is total submission to God’s will” that the beautiful description of his preaching.

Now one word for this in Arabic is Islam. Islam means “Total submission to God’s will.”

According to some theories the word Judaism comes from Judah (the son of Jacob peace be upon him.) Jacob sons settled in Palestine. They were divided into twelve tribes. The portion which was occupied by Judah’s tribe was called the province of Judea. People living outside Palestine started calling that the religion followed by Judea is Judaism. This is how the word came up. It is just like people outside Islam call Muslims as Mohammedans but a Muslim reject that term and never use it for themselves. Muslims don’t call themselves worshippers of Muhammad (peace be upon him.) but worshipper of the God of Muhammad (peace be upon him) and other Prophets before him.

The name, Judaism, thus was invented by people and not God .Sometime people like these names and later adopts it for themselves. Moses (peace be upon him) though never used the word Judaism for his preaching.

What about Christianity?

If on Jesus (peace be upon him) second coming we ask him “Oh Jesus (peace be upon him) what is your religion?” What do you think he will say?

I don’t expect him to say “Christianity”, as he never heard the term. In his life time he never used the word.
It is ridiculous claim to say he will reply Christianity. What do we expect him to say? May be he will say “My religion is total submission to God’s will.” Remember he also said:

“For I have come down from heaven, not to do My own will, but the will of Him who sent me” (John 6:38)

Coming back to the point where the word did Christianity came from? It’s not in Bible! However there is word Christian in New Testament. The enemies are pointing and saying they are Christians! Enemies are pointing out and calling them worshippers of Christ like Buddhism or the non Muslim points at Muslims and try to call them Mohammedans. So you see these are all invented terms not given by God .Did Buddha says my religion is Buddhism? Did Jesus (peace be upon him) says my religion is Christianity? Did Moses (peace be upon him) says Judaism is his religion? …answer is No! All these are labels given by outside people to the followers which sometime people love and adopt it for themselves.

Moses (peace be upon him) religion was same as Jesus (peace be upon him) and Jesus (peace be upon him.) religion was same as Muhammad (peace be upon him) that is “Total submission to the will of God .They were all Muslims (meaning: one, who surrenders himself to God,)

Does that mean that Moses (peace be upon him) and Jesus (peace be upon him.) were following Muhammad (peace be upon him.) ??? Then answer is : NO!

A Muslim is someone who surrenders his will to God. Abraham was a Muslim in that sense so was David, Solomon Jesus, and Moses. Muhammad (peace be upon all. ). The whole nature , the birds , animal , plants , mountains , air , planets , stars all are Muslim as all submits their will to God but only, only men rebels.

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

How strange that in every special case
one praises one's own way!
If Islam means "surrender into God's will"
it's in Islam that we all live and die.

2:164. Behold! in the creation of the heavens and the earth; in the alternation of the night and the day; in the sailing of the ships through the ocean for the profit of mankind; in the rain which Allah Sends down from the skies, and the life which He gives therewith to an earth that is dead; in the beasts of all kinds that He scatters through the earth; in the change of the winds, and the clouds which they Trail like their slaves between the sky and the earth;- (Here) indeed are Signs for a people that are wise.

2:165. Yet there are men who take (for worship) others besides Allah, as equal (with Allah.: They love them as they should love Allah. But those of Faith are overflowing in their love for Allah. If only the unrighteous could see, behold, they would see the penalty: that to Allah belongs all power, and Allah will strongly enforce the penalty.

(Adaptation from the lectures of Sheikh Ahmed Deedat. )

Fri Jan 09, 2015 12:36 pm
Share on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on TuentiShare on SonicoShare on FriendFeedShare on OrkutShare on DiggShare on MySpaceShare on DeliciousShare on TechnoratiShare on TumblrShare on Google+
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 1 post ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 1 guest

You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Wake Up Project Copyright 2013 All Rights Reserved

Wake Up Project

Like us on FaceBook!