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i am and here is my chin of khalifas

1. Sheikh Yusuf Motala

2. Sheikh Muhammad Zakariyya

3. Sheikh Khalil Ahmed Ambhetawi:

4. Sheikh Rashid Ahmed Gangohi:

5. Sheikh Imdadullah Makki:

6. Sheikh Mianjee Noor Muhammad:

7. Sheikh Abdur Rahim Wilayati:

8. Sheikh Abdul Baari Amrohi:

9. Sheikh Abdul Haadi Amrohi:

10. Sheikh Ad'dud'deen Amrohi:

11. Sheikh Shah Muhammad AI Makki:

12. Sheikh Muhammad Akbarabadi:

13. Sheikh Muhibullah Ilahabadi:

14. Sheikh Shah Abu Saeed Gangohi:

15. Sheikh Nizammudin AI Balkhi:

16. Sheikh Jalauddin Thanesari:

17. Sheikh Shah Abdul Quddus Gangohi:

18. Sheikh Muhammad AI Farouqi:

19. Sheikh Aarif AI Farouqi:

20. Sheikh Abdul Haq Ar Radolwi:

21. Sheikh Jalaaluddin Paani Pati:

22. Sheikh Shamsuddin At Turki:

23. Sheikh Makhdum Alaa'ud din:

24. Sheikh Farieduddin Masood:

25. Sheikh Qutubuddin Bakhtiar:

26. Sheikh Mu'eenuddin Sanjari:

27. Sheikh Uthman Haaruni:

28. Sheikh Sharif Tinnizi:

29. Sheikh Qutubuddin Mawdood:

30. Sheikh Naseeruddin Abu Yusuf.

31 Sheikh Abu Muhammad Chisty:

32. Sheikh Abu Ahmed Chisty:

33. Sheikh Abu Ishaaq Shaami:

34. Sheikh Mamsaad Aloo Daynoori:

35. Sheikh Hubayrah Basri:

36. Sheikh Huzayfa Basri:

37. Sheikh Ibrahim Ibn Ad'ham:

38. Sheikh Fuzayl Ibn Ayaadh:

39. Sheikh Abdul Wahid Ibn Zayd:

40. Sheikh Hasan Basri:

41. Ameerul Mu'mineen: Hadhrat Ali Ibn Abi Taalib, and then from

Our Beloved Rasullullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam


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Unread post Re: is anyone bait to a Shaykh
You mean are we from Ahlulbayt?

I'm a distant relative of Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Sistani.

My tree returns to Imam Retha (pbuhaf) - the (8th Imam and) 7th descendant of Rasulollah (pbuhaf).

But I really feel ashamed of myself... from Imam Sadiq (pbuh):

"Good deeds are good, but from you they are better, for you are close to us. And evil deeds are evil, but from you they are WORSE, for you are close to us."

With what face will I meet them on the day of Judgement...

"And if you could but see the guilty, lowering their heads before their Lord..."

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sayyid_haamid wrote:
You mean are we from Ahlulbayt?


no i mean taking the bait from someone

The tradition of bay'ah can be traced back to the era of Muhammad ( s.w.a). From the beginning bay'ah was taken by the prophet as an oath of allegiance. Anybody who wanted to enter the new religion, Islam, did so by reciting the basic statement of the faith expressing his faith in the oneness of Allah and the prophethood of Muhammad ( s.a.w). In addition to this the prophet formally took bay'ah from the people and tribes. Through this formal act they entered the Islamic community and showed their willingness to follow and obey the prophet. The wordings of the oath differ in different traditions but it contains the shahadah and prayers of repentance.

so the bay'ah that hazrat Ali ( r.a) took from the prophet (s.a.w) and became a muslim i am from his chin of spiritual sons ( students)
and ( this is the best part ) hazrat Ail's ( r.a) hands touch the prophet's ( s.a.w) hands then to his chin - that i put up - down to my hands ( knowing that makes me so happy Alhamdulillah ) :D


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I'm sorry... I don't understand.

From Rasulollah (pbuhaf) in the Saheeh:
"Whoever dies without allegiance to the Imam of his time has died the death of ignorance (Jahiliyah)"

Brother, according to my belief (as you may know by now), the Imam/Khalifa is appointed by Allah (swt) and has special characteristics.

"And when Abraham's Lord tested him with words, and he fulfilled them, He said: I am appointing you an Imam for the people..."

The allegiance I have is to Imam Mahdi.

But you said you took bay'ah (allegiance) with these "khalifas" ??
Do you mean they are the successors to Rasulollah (pbuhaf)??
What do you mean? I didn't understand.

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YOU MUST READ THIS - The WILL of our Holy Messenger!
The 5 Definite Signs
How to create a fake Imam Mahdi


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Unread post Re: is anyone bait to a Shaykh
sayyid_haamid wrote:

I'm a distant relative of Grand Ayatollah Sayyid Ali Sistani.

My tree returns to Imam Retha (pbuhaf) - the (8th Imam and) 7th descendant of Rasulollah (pbuhaf).

But I really feel ashamed of myself... from Imam Sadiq (pbuh):

"Good deeds are good, but from you they are better, for you are close to us. And evil deeds are evil, but from you they are WORSE, for you are close to us."


Brother Sayyid, for what it is worth, I hope Allah will bless you and your family for you're work here on this forum. I've been reading SO MANY of the posts and debates on here, and I think i'm learning from very honest, knowledgeable, sincere people.
Please know that your analysis I feel is very straightforward, and looks at both sides of the "argument", and bases your conclusions on logic, and the basics. I hope everyone here knows just how much they have helped me.
I could not have found better people to welcome me to Islam.
WASALAAM TO ALL!!

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AL-ISNAD FI AHWALIDDIN....

I think the 'bait' he meant there is the bai'ah/bayyath....

With the unbroken chains (SANAD) from the Soliheen, Salafussoleh and some may be even Auliyaullah Al-Soliheen (that more often than not, also include Al-Hasanis and Al-Husaynis)....ultimately that leads towards the prime source of Lights of all Lights....Prophet Muhammad sollallahu alaihi wasallam.

This is what is missing in the majority of Muslims the world over today....they seek knowledge without looking for the unbroken chain from Rasulullah sollallahu alaihi wasallam....that explains the sheer ZULAM (Darkness) engulfing Muslims in the Modern World.

We tend to take our Sanad from the Kuffars which laugh as you may, could even lead to Al-Masikh Dajjal :twisted: alaihi la'natullah without us realizing it. (not a joke but a sad reality)

Insha Allah later on, I will reveal the Sanad of my Shaykh...


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i have different family members and friends who have a sheikh,
one of them follows the nimatullahi order, another follows the naqshabendi order, my father and grandfather also used to have a sheikh, i need to ask my mum who he is since they are are not alife anymore....

i have always felt the need for this for guidance "not for intermediating" to Allah, but so far i have been moving from one to another, perhaps due to my traveling life...i have learned a lot from their books and speeches.

one of the best advices they gave me once is: i dont care what path you choose as long as you make a choice and stick to it so you can progress and see with the spiritual eye...if you dig one hole for 2 min in different locations you will never find water.....focus on one well and keep digging...water will come soon....

.....and Allah knows best

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nevertoolate wrote:
i am and here is my chin of khalifas

1. Sheikh Yusuf Motala

2. Sheikh Muhammad Zakariyya

3. Sheikh Khalil Ahmed Ambhetawi:

4. Sheikh Rashid Ahmed Gangohi:

5. Sheikh Imdadullah Makki:

6. Sheikh Mianjee Noor Muhammad:

7. Sheikh Abdur Rahim Wilayati:

8. Sheikh Abdul Baari Amrohi:

9. Sheikh Abdul Haadi Amrohi:

10. Sheikh Ad'dud'deen Amrohi:

11. Sheikh Shah Muhammad AI Makki:

12. Sheikh Muhammad Akbarabadi:

13. Sheikh Muhibullah Ilahabadi:

14. Sheikh Shah Abu Saeed Gangohi:

15. Sheikh Nizammudin AI Balkhi:

16. Sheikh Jalauddin Thanesari:

17. Sheikh Shah Abdul Quddus Gangohi:

18. Sheikh Muhammad AI Farouqi:

19. Sheikh Aarif AI Farouqi:

20. Sheikh Abdul Haq Ar Radolwi:

21. Sheikh Jalaaluddin Paani Pati:

22. Sheikh Shamsuddin At Turki:

23. Sheikh Makhdum Alaa'ud din:

24. Sheikh Farieduddin Masood:

25. Sheikh Qutubuddin Bakhtiar:

26. Sheikh Mu'eenuddin Sanjari:

27. Sheikh Uthman Haaruni:

28. Sheikh Sharif Tinnizi:

29. Sheikh Qutubuddin Mawdood:

30. Sheikh Naseeruddin Abu Yusuf.

31 Sheikh Abu Muhammad Chisty:

32. Sheikh Abu Ahmed Chisty:

33. Sheikh Abu Ishaaq Shaami:

34. Sheikh Mamsaad Aloo Daynoori:

35. Sheikh Hubayrah Basri:

36. Sheikh Huzayfa Basri:

37. Sheikh Ibrahim Ibn Ad'ham:

38. Sheikh Fuzayl Ibn Ayaadh:

39. Sheikh Abdul Wahid Ibn Zayd:

40. Sheikh Hasan Basri:

41. Ameerul Mu'mineen: Hadhrat Ali Ibn Abi Taalib, and then from

Our Beloved Rasullullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam



can you perhaps pm me if they have a website or in what country they are found? i m always looking for a shiekh connected to hazrat ali ibn abi talib since i believe he is the door of knowledge to prophet mohamed...

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nevertoolate wrote:
40. Sheikh Hasan Basri:

41. Ameerul Mu'mineen: Hadhrat Ali Ibn Abi Taalib, and then from

Our Beloved Rasullullah Sallallahu Alayhi Wasallam


sheik hassan albasri is not a descendant of the prophet


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Salaam...

i haven't given Bayah to any sheikh yet... i tried once but couldn't make up my mind then ... i don't know whom will i give Bayah to before the Institute of Caliphate (arrival of Imam Mahdi) is established in Makkah and Madina....


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salaam,

sister sacnoon, i think u misunderstood what the OP is saying, hes not talking about descendants of P. Mohammad pbuh, or whtever (is that even important up until todays generation???)

re-read what he wrote...and Sheikh Hasan Al-Basri ra may not be directly related to P. Mohammad pbuh, but one only needs to look at how (circumstances) P. Mohammad pbuh praised this man to know that he is one of the greatest Muslims to ever walk this earth

w/s


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sayyid_haamid wrote:
I'm sorry... I don't understand.

From Rasulollah (pbuhaf) in the Saheeh:
"Whoever dies without allegiance to the Imam of his time has died the death of ignorance (Jahiliyah)"

Brother, according to my belief (as you may know by now), the Imam/Khalifa is appointed by Allah (swt) and has special characteristics.

"And when Abraham's Lord tested him with words, and he fulfilled them, He said: I am appointing you an Imam for the people..."

The allegiance I have is to Imam Mahdi.

But you said you took bay'ah (allegiance) with these "khalifas" ??
Do you mean they are the successors to Rasulollah (pbuhaf)??
What do you mean? I didn't understand.




when iman Mahdi will come out i will inshaallah go to him and repeat my bayyath with him


asralfarhi wrote:
AL-ISNAD FI AHWALIDDIN....

I think the 'bait' he meant there is the bai'ah/bayyath....

With the unbroken chains (SANAD) from the Soliheen, Salafussoleh and some may be even Auliyaullah Al-Soliheen (that more often than not, also include Al-Hasanis and Al-Husaynis)....ultimately that leads towards the prime source of Lights of all Lights....Prophet Muhammad sollallahu alaihi wasallam.

This is what is missing in the majority of Muslims the world over today....they seek knowledge without looking for the unbroken chain from Rasulullah sollallahu alaihi wasallam....that explains the sheer ZULAM (Darkness) engulfing Muslims in the Modern World.

We tend to take our Sanad from the Kuffars which laugh as you may, could even lead to Al-Masikh Dajjal :twisted: alaihi la'natullah without us realizing it. (not a joke but a sad reality)

Insha Allah later on, I will reveal the Sanad of my Shaykh...


i would love to see this ;)

plus i have a hadith isnad for all main six books of hadiths ( sunni books)

its very long all in Arabic and all of then ( books) differ some what but insaallah ill put it up soon


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eegunezuwaja wrote:
salaam,

sister sacnoon, i think u misunderstood what the OP is saying, hes not talking about descendants of P. Mohammad pbuh, or whtever (is that even important up until todays generation???)

re-read what he wrote...and Sheikh Hasan Al-Basri ra may not be directly related to P. Mohammad pbuh, but one only needs to look at how (circumstances) P. Mohammad pbuh praised this man to know that he is one of the greatest Muslims to ever walk this earth

w/s

thanks eegunezuwaja, and sorry nevertoolate ..
yah I did misunderstood him..

chin of khalifas,.. do you know all these people you have mentioned?


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