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salams: came across something that may interest some in here.. would love to have your comments about this.. [btw i'm only posting this ...its not my views so if you wish to argue you may contact the site admin at the source provided below the article :) ]

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Moslems believe that Earth is not a unique planet but rather God created several planets like Earth throughout the universe:

(Quran 65.12) Allah is the one who created seven heavens and from Earth like them (of corresponding type); [Allah’s] command descends among them (heavens and earths) so that you may know that Allah is capable of anything and that Allah knows everything.

In Islam, Earth is not a unique planet. Other planets like Earth do exist throughout the universe. Actually the Quran says that other planets also have land animals:

(Quran 42.29) And from His signs He created the heavens and the Earth; and the land animals that He scattered in BOTH of them (heavens and Earth); And He is capable of gathering them (in one place) if He wishes.

So according to the Quran, the heavens have land animals like our Earth (not just angels). Actually the Quran says that some of those extraterrestrial creatures will invade Earth one day: There is a wormhole right here on Earth that connects Earth with another planet. One day the creatures on that planet will use this wormhole to invade Earth:

Allah gave a method of transportation to his angels throughout the universe. The Quran calls them ‘Ma'arej معارج’ (Quran 70.3) and describes how angels use them for long distance travel. Today Moslems know that these ‘Ma'arej’ is what scientists call wormholes. This is a picture of a wormhole. See how angels can reach any place in the universe before you finish reading this sentence: Wormholes in Quran.

Moslems also believe that wormholes are not strictly for the use of angels. Their prophet used a wormhole once in the ‘Israa & Me'raj’ (Me'raj معراج is singular of Ma'arej) (Quran 17.1). In another incident the Quran describes a clan of ‘Yagog and Magog’ using a Me'raj (wormhole):

This clan (who didn’t understand human speech) were wreaking havoc on Earth. They came from BEYOND the two dams that a human called ‘Thu Al-Karnein’ built. He built two iron dams; one at each end of a Me'raj. The ends of this Me'raj look like two shells (exactly like modern science describes the doorways of a wormhole):



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The wormhole is completely transparent however it carves its shape in whatever matter it is in. In this incident, it is in a mountain so it carved its shape, a shell, in the mountain; One shell at each end of this Me'raj. The two shells in this verse are the two entrances of the Me'raj. (See how Wormholes work, and Time Dilation experienced by angels inside a wormhole)

Thu Al-Karnein brought iron blocks and split them equally between the two ends of this Me'raj. He melted the iron into two dams, one dam at each end. Once this Me'raj became inaccessible to that clan they could no longer wreak havoc on Earth. One day this dam will break and Yagog and Magog will wreak havoc on Earth again.

(Quran 18.92-99) Then he (Thu Al-Karnein) followed a direction 93 When he reached between the two dams (inside the Me'raj) he found BEYOND them (ma dunihima in Arabic) a clan that cannot understand speech. 94 (The local humans) Said: 'O Thu Al-Karnein! Yagog and Magog are spoiling Earth. Shall we pay you tribute and in return you build between us and them a barrier?' 95 (Thu Al-Karnein) said 'What my Lord endowed me with is better (than your tribute), so supply me with manpower to build between you and them a sediment. 96 Bring me blocks of iron'. When he (Thu Al-Karnein) split the iron equally between the two shells (the two doorways of the Me'raj). He said: 'Blow (on the fire)' until it became ablaze. He said: 'Bring me (the molten iron) to pour it'. 97 So (Yagog and Magog) could no longer access (the shell on their side) nor pierce through (their iron dam). 98 (Thu Al-Karnein) said 'This is a mercy from my Lord: but when the promise of my Lord is due, He will make it into waste; and the promise of my Lord is true.' 99 On that day (when that dam becomes waste) We [Allah] shall leave them (Humans and clan of Yagog & Magog) to flow like waves one into the other; (Then) the trumpet will be blown, and We will gather them together.

The word "saddain" in Arabic means "two dams" however it was mistranslated to other languages as "two mountains". Another word "sadafain" in Arabic means "two shells" however it was also mistranslated to "two mountains". The common mistranslation of the Quran presents wrong stories in other languages. Please refer to Arabic Quran.

The clan of Yagog and Magog are trapped beyond the two dams (ma dunihima) and not between them (ma baynihima). So if they are 'beyond them' how then could they be trapped?

They can only be trapped if the second dam is not on Earth. The second end of this Me'raj can be on Earth, but it can also be anywhere else in the universe. In this particular case it has to be on another planet. So Yagog and Magog are trapped beyond the two dams but not on Earth; they are trapped on another planet. Someday these dams will break and Yagog and Magog will invade Earth from that planet.

Life in Islam is not bound to Earth. Other planets have life like Earth. And all living things and non-living things glorify Allah:

(Quran 17.44} The seven heavens and the Earth and everyone in them glorify Him [Allah]; and there is nothing that doesn't glorify HIM thankfully; but you (humans) do not understand their glorification. He is Compassionate, Merciful.

(Quran 16.49-50) And to Allah kneels what's in the heavens and what's on Earth, of land animals and angels, and they act with no arrogance; 50 They fear their Lord above them and they do what they are ordered.


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There is a wormhole right here on Earth that connects Earth to another planet that has life.

http://www.speed-light.info/islam_life_other_planets.htm


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The word "saddain" in Arabic means "two dams" however it was mistranslated to other languages as "two mountains". Another word "sadafain" in Arabic means "two shells" however it was also mistranslated to "two mountains". The common mistranslation of the Quran presents wrong stories in other languages. Please refer to Arabic Quran.


Brother, excellent find....paradigm shifting to say the least.
Perhaps the most pronounced would be:

How would the proposed structure of Sadafain:

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....be any different than this structure? :shock:

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This is how it is seen from the Russian Mir Space Station.....it's (space station) no longer up there is it?



Subhanallah, they appear to be one and the same, there's even a vortex action of a 'worm hole' up there, the hole being situated at the Northern rotational axis of the Earth which is an open sea;

Speaking of sea, please look up for these phrases/words from Surah Al-Kahfi that precedes the word Sadafain:

Majma'a Al-Bahrain مَجمَعَ البَحرَينِ
Al-Bahri Saraba البَحرِ سَرَبًا
Al-Bahri A'jaba البَحرِ عَجَبًا
'Ainin Hami-a-tin عَينٍ حَمِئَةٍ

What on Earth are they describing? Are these all describing that same 'worm hole'?

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..waiting, [this topic intrigues me every now & again, i don;t seem to be at ease with any explanation as yet ]

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he created man and we were meant to be the best of creations. quran does not meantion any other such creations which could ne intelligent as us or more because of having attirbutes of allah.

Hollow earth? Yeah, but in this day and agem if there really was a big hole on either pole of the planet we would have undeniable proof by now!


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ALLAH said in the Qur'aan that Men is the best among the creatures. I don't think there is another place where a better creature has been created. Indeed. Muhammad (saw), who is the best creature, is from earth and not anywhere else. Muhammad (saw) superiority is way way far than any other creature taking into account that he (saw) is the only one who has crossed the limit of Sidratul Muntaha during Mi'raj. ALLAH created the seven heavens sure but men is the best creature. Remember that when ALLAH created Adam (as) and ordered all angels and Ibliss to bow for respect before him, it's a clear proof. ALLAH created this vast universe only for us to meditate on His Al mightiness and Uniqueness.

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Speaking of life on other planets; fancy other Earths?

[Al-Talaaq; 65:12]

اللَّهُ الَّذى خَلَقَ سَبعَ سَمٰوٰتٍ وَمِنَ الأَرضِ مِثلَهُنَّ يَتَنَزَّلُ الأَمرُ بَينَهُنَّ لِتَعلَموا أَنَّ اللَّهَ عَلىٰ كُلِّ شَيءٍ قَديرٌ وَأَنَّ اللَّهَ قَد أَحاطَ بِكُلِّ شَيءٍ عِلمًا ﴿١٢


12) ALLAH is He who has created seven heavens, and, like them, [the many aspects] of the earth. Through all of them flows down from on high, unceasingly, His [creative] will, so that you might come to know that God has the power to will anything, and that God encompasses all things with His knowledge. [Asad]

(12) It is Allah who has created the seven heavens, and of the earth their like, and the Command descends between them so that you know Allah is powerful over all things, and that Allah encompasses everything in knowledge. [Qaribullah]


7 Earths?

The Asad translation is quite confusing....the Qaribullah is more close to Arabic Quran meaning. I bet a lot of the translators are confused about the 7 Earths. Wait till you get to Ibn Abbas exegesis, that will get a lot more heads scratching. He feared for his life should he have told the real deal.

We haven't even got to the part of many many Adams, on many many Earths.


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Speaking of life on other planets; fancy other Earths?

[Al-Talaaq; 65:12]

اللَّهُ الَّذى خَلَقَ سَبعَ سَمٰوٰتٍ وَمِنَ الأَرضِ مِثلَهُنَّ يَتَنَزَّلُ الأَمرُ بَينَهُنَّ لِتَعلَموا أَنَّ اللَّهَ عَلىٰ كُلِّ شَيءٍ قَديرٌ وَأَنَّ اللَّهَ قَد أَحاطَ بِكُلِّ شَيءٍ عِلمًا ﴿١٢


12) ALLAH is He who has created seven heavens, and, like them, [the many aspects] of the earth. Through all of them flows down from on high, unceasingly, His [creative] will, so that you might come to know that God has the power to will anything, and that God encompasses all things with His knowledge. [Asad]

(12) It is Allah who has created the seven heavens, and of the earth their like, and the Command descends between them so that you know Allah is powerful over all things, and that Allah encompasses everything in knowledge. [Qaribullah]


7 Earths?

The Asad translation is quite confusing....the Qaribullah is more close to Arabic Quran meaning. I bet a lot of the translators are confused about the 7 Earths. Wait till you get to Ibn Abbas exegesis, that will get a lot more heads scratching. He feared for his life should he have told the real deal.

We haven't even got to the part of many many Adams, on many many Earths.



Wow! SubhanAllah this is such a intriguing subject! The closest i came to learning about this was in a series by you-know-who and we later learnt of his true intentions when he tried to lead us to a self-proclaimed 'grandson' of Imam Mahdi a.s. in Iraq.

I hope that through your posts we will get to the truth of this wonderful subject InshaAllah.
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Thank you for this subject, I have been reading about this for several years now, yet I am not convinced it is true! I would LOVE for this to be true yet I don't know, I need more evidence. I probably wouldn't believe it until I stepped into a wormhole myself.

In Islam it is taught that the soul leaves the body during sleep. However, it doesn't seem we are ever aware of it. Could this be another form of "wormhole" travel? I remember hearing from other cultures and religions, that planes of space/time can be accessed through your own body via the pineal gland, hence the practice of balancing/aligning chakras, or moving chii through the body. However I am also aware that some cultures believe this is the way to "heaven" or "hell" and that we are our own God, astagfarallah, but this is a different subject entirely.

While I tend to disagree, I have relatives who are particularly fascinated by the idea that Gog and Magog are actually inner-earth dwellers, and they believe in the hollow earth theory. Like I said, I would LIKE to believe this theory but I need hard evidence, not just speculation or interpretations of quranic verses. We often debate about this very topic. However I do believe that is is POSSIBLE that wormholes exist and they can be accessed, accidentally or intentionally, for benign or harmful purposes. It could very well be that djinn and/or angels use these, but what about humans?

How could the physical human body survive traveling through a wormhole? I just don't understand, assuming we could travel faster than the speed of light through a wormhole, wouldn't our bodies age so rapidly that when we came out the other end, we were dusty skeletons? Even if we did not age, wouldn't the distortion of the laws of physics within the wormhole be overwhelmingly traumatic on the human body? I mean, we can't even take 10 G's before getting sick, passing out, or suffering a heart-attack.

I don't really know, anyway. I haven't taken Quantum Physics or even delved too much into the subject, but this is what makes sense to me in my limited understanding.

I had on two occasions dreamt that I was able to leave my physical body and go through the physical world unhindered.

1) I dreamt that a shay tan was trying to give me bad dreams, but I became aware of him. In fact, my soul got out of my body, flew through the wall, up through the ground and over the street (because I lived in a basement flat at the time), and chase him [the hideous shaytan] down the street along the sidewalk. Then I returned to my body and woke up.

2) I dreamt that my soul left my body and I flew threw the skies, then dived into the ocean, and went to other similar places although I can't remember now, but I never left the position of laying (as though I were laying inside of an invisible container that took my through space and time without hindrance).

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How could the physical human body survive traveling through a wormhole? I just don't understand, assuming we could travel faster than the speed of light through a wormhole, wouldn't our bodies age so rapidly that when we came out the other end, we were dusty skeletons? Even if we did not age, wouldn't the distortion of the laws of physics within the wormhole be overwhelmingly traumatic on the human body? I mean, we can't even take 10 G's before getting sick, passing out, or suffering a heart-attack.

I don't really know, anyway. I haven't taken Quantum Physics or even delved too much into the subject, but this is what makes sense to me in my limited understanding.

Dilithium chambers running on maximum efficiency commander!

When it comes to this ''warping'' theorie (or space folding theory which is more likely since the concept of Tay al Maqan is not new in Islam) it is best to assume you are in some kind of bubble.

Interestingly is to notice how Rasool sallallahu wa aleihi wasalam used the Buraq, which could have been some kind of surrogate 'device' to use extreme kinds of warping and bending space and what not.

Not that it is impossible for Prophet sallallahu wa aleihi wasalam to use nothing but the will of Allah ta ala to travel, but I am just saying that the Buraq and other creatures like the buraq (some kind of horses) are some kind of means to travel through wormholes etc. ACCORDING TO RULES OF NATURE. It is important to know that Allah ta ala is Sabbab ul Asbaab (true cause of all effects), but often grants permission to let things happen when rules of nature are followed. I.e. when you are thirsty, the rules of nature prescribe to lubricate with watery substance. Allah will mostly create hydration only when this rule is followed. Extrapolate this with fire and burning and whatever else... Now think of this in perspective of the Buraq.

Also, while I believe that in the hadith regarding miraaj etc. when Buraq is described as a special horse, I do believe it is that in literal way. However, we must make room for islamic 'symbolism' regarding a 'horse' being a word to describe symbolic means to travel, without negating the possibility of literal horse :)

Does anyone know the link to that video of that guy who posted a video about being led into a store by a person to buy a book which described tafseer from ibn abbas rahmatullahi ta ala aleihi and talked about 7 adams, 7 jesus, 7 noah etc. etc. (1 Mohammad sallallahu wa aleihi wasalam ofcourse..)

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Interestingly is to notice how Rasool sallallahu wa aleihi wasalam used the Buraq, which could have been some kind of surrogate 'device' to use extreme kinds of warping and bending space and what not.


I almost forgot about the story of the Buraq!

Subhanallah, a fascinating story of traveling at (or faster) than the speed of light and traveling through the dimensions. If I remember clearly, it is said the Prophet PBUH returned from his miraculous journey "while his bed was still warm." Meaning, traveling from there to Jeruselum to the 7 Heavens and back again only took a minute or in Earth time?

Assuming that this is POTENTIALLY possible for any human being if we had a vehicle of some kind, then I suppose that it does not have any detrimental effects on the human body, maybe a little "motion sickness" but that's it, though I still have trouble understanding how.

In one of the dreams I related to you, in which my body was traveling into the sky and down into the ocean at fantastic speeds, I was laying down in some kind of invisible vessel. I wasn't moving on my own accord but this vessel was taking me around, and protecting me from the elements (cold temperatures, water, etc)

I remember the movie/book "Contact" in which the main character and a team of scientists gather alien blueprints to build a teleporter. She gets in the tele porter's ball-shaped vehicle and is dropped into the center of it, where presumably she would be transported via wormhole. It seemingly fails to everyone who watches, because the ball falls straight through into the safety net below. But her audio-visual recorder captures 18 hours of static during that time, and she sees visions of being teleported through space/time.

This same story matches the true story of the Prophet PBUH traveling through space/time. How does a man 1400 years ago, even if the story WAS false, accurately describe what occurs while traveling at extreme speeds/distances? Like how in Earth time is was only 1 minute, whereas his journey was very long and far? Sounds just like a Carl Sagan novel! lol

In fact most ancient cultures believed in being able to physically travel between the worlds, and as such, stargates are found all over the world. But many of these "stargates" require some kind of evil sacrifice to be opened, usually to allow entities IN to our world.

Wow, I realize I've led this topic WAY off topic.

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Okay, I wanted to reply on the subject itself before I take this way off topic.

I DON'T believe that there are other planets with life on it. I think we're the only ones, and here's why.

If we're talking about planets that possess creatures without conscience, like animals, etc, I don't think this could happen. The reason why, is that Allah SWT says

....Thus We have made them (the animals) subjugated to you, so that you may be grateful. Hajj 22:36

This reveals to us that animals directly or indirectly help us human beings, whether it is for food, clothing, transportation, or to clean debris/carrion, or to act as food for the other creatures.

So, how can a planet of animals light years away help us, directly or indirectly? There would be no purpose for it, except perhaps that we might be in awe of discovering it, but that's it.



Now, if we're talking about PEOPLE on other "earths", well, it COULD happen, but there isn't any purpose in us trying to find out about them or where they could exist. Otherwise Allah SWT probably would have spoken more about this subject and gave us some hints and suggestions to make contact with them. The people on those other planets can exist and fulfill their destinies without any help from us, likewise we can exist and fulfill our sacred duties without any help from them. We are able to live and die, and not know about these other people, and nothing bad would come of it.

This is hearsay, but an Arabic-speaking relative of mine told me that people are misinterpreting "7 Earths", when it should be more like "7 Layers" in the context of Earth's layers.

I could be wrong; if someone wants to get the arabic words and present them to me, that's great.

So, ultimately, as always, I sincerely WANT to believe in other planets with other peoples/Prophets/Dajjals etc, I need some hard evidence first. Speculation is not enough.

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ALLAH said in the Qur'aan that Men is the best among the creatures. I don't think there is another place where a better creature has been created. Indeed. Muhammad (saw), who is the best creature, is from earth and not anywhere else. Muhammad (saw) superiority is way way far than any other creature taking into account that he (saw) is the only one who has crossed the limit of Sidratul Muntaha during Mi'raj. ALLAH created the seven heavens sure but men is the best creature. Remember that when ALLAH created Adam (as) and ordered all angels and Ibliss to bow for respect before him, it's a clear proof. ALLAH created this vast universe only for us to meditate on His Al mightiness and Uniqueness.

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How could the physical human body survive traveling through a wormhole? I just don't understand, assuming we could travel faster than the speed of light through a wormhole, wouldn't our bodies age so rapidly that when we came out the other end, we were dusty skeletons? Even if we did not age, wouldn't the distortion of the laws of physics within the wormhole be overwhelmingly traumatic on the human body? I mean, we can't even take 10 G's before getting sick, passing out, or suffering a heart-attack.

I don't really know, anyway. I haven't taken Quantum Physics or even delved too much into the subject, but this is what makes sense to me in my limited understanding.

Dilithium chambers running on maximum efficiency commander!

When it comes to this ''warping'' theorie (or space folding theory which is more likely since the concept of Tay al Maqan is not new in Islam) it is best to assume you are in some kind of bubble.

Interestingly is to notice how Rasool sallallahu wa aleihi wasalam used the Buraq, which could have been some kind of surrogate 'device' to use extreme kinds of warping and bending space and what not.

Not that it is impossible for Prophet sallallahu wa aleihi wasalam to use nothing but the will of Allah ta ala to travel, but I am just saying that the Buraq and other creatures like the buraq (some kind of horses) are some kind of means to travel through wormholes etc. ACCORDING TO RULES OF NATURE. It is important to know that Allah ta ala is Sabbab ul Asbaab (true cause of all effects), but often grants permission to let things happen when rules of nature are followed. I.e. when you are thirsty, the rules of nature prescribe to lubricate with watery substance. Allah will mostly create hydration only when this rule is followed. Extrapolate this with fire and burning and whatever else... Now think of this in perspective of the Buraq.

Also, while I believe that in the hadith regarding miraaj etc. when Buraq is described as a special horse, I do believe it is that in literal way. However, we must make room for islamic 'symbolism' regarding a 'horse' being a word to describe symbolic means to travel, without negating the possibility of literal horse :)

Does anyone know the link to that video of that guy who posted a video about being led into a store by a person to buy a book which described tafseer from ibn abbas rahmatullahi ta ala aleihi and talked about 7 adams, 7 jesus, 7 noah etc. etc. (1 Mohammad sallallahu wa aleihi wasalam ofcourse..)

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Does anyone know the link to that video of that guy who posted a video about being led into a store by a person to buy a book which described tafseer from ibn abbas rahmatullahi ta ala aleihi and talked about 7 adams, 7 jesus, 7 noah etc. etc. (1 Mohammad sallallahu wa aleihi wasalam ofcourse..)




LMAO...sorry the last part made me laugh so hard...hey seriously!!!!

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