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Anti Christ will promise eternal life.

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So We said, "O Adam, indeed this is an enemy to you and to your wife. Then let him not remove you from Paradise so you would suffer.
Indeed, it is [promised] for you not to be hungry therein or be unclothed.
And indeed, you will not be thirsty therein or be hot from the sun.
Then Satan whispered to him; he said, "O Adam, shall I direct you to the tree of eternity and possession that will not deteriorate?
And Adam and his wife ate of it, and their private parts became apparent to them, and they began to fasten over themselves from the leaves of Paradise. And Adam disobeyed his Lord and erred.
Then his Lord chose him and turned to him in forgiveness and guided [him]. -koran 20:118

this is still that old story. and the more it passes the more it gets vivid.

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i don't think that dajjal will be promising eternal life at all. the verse you shared is worth the following question:
How could Adam and Eve(a) know what death means if they were the first humans ever so that they get promised eternity?
Why would Ibless promise them things that are not known to the first created humans (i.e Adam and Eve(a))?

However, eternal life is compatible with perfect life only. Meaning, would you like to live eternity with a miserable unhealthy, unwealthy, and filled with problems life? of course eternity in this premise is not something desirable. Having said that will validate the opinion/possibility that perhaps Dajjal will promise perfect life and then only then he may promise eternity.

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of course no one can be fortunate and have perfect life, while death is chasing him. however I took a look again around those verses and I knew that Allah taught many things to Adam already. but suppose that I and you were Adam and we had not seen any death. but we had seen and known that we were created. while we had not been anything before that. in other words we were nothing. and consider we were witnessing angels. those who are obeying Allah and they do not die. and consider we were witnessing Lucifer. Lucifer who was a Jinn not an angel. we were witnessing that Lucifer could become near Allah with thousands years prayers and he wants to advise us to this truth. what would we do if we were naive.

suppose that someone who has a reputation of many many prays and he is a well known religious man like a cleric comes and says something wrong to you. then what would you do. would you accept that blindly. no the experience of Adam shows us that we should not rely on people blindly even if they are very very religious.

even now humanity is still making the mistake of Adam and human satans are hunting humanity !

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Youtube deleted the person's account. I wanted to share another video.. But.

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I personally don't think that's what the false christ will preach.
Look at it this way, especially read many of the clues in Surah Kahf.

1) faith is like a tree. We know this based on several hadiths and many old and new testament texts. It takes time to grow a tree and the best tree takes the longest to grow and produces the best fruit.
2)in this duniya we can only see the fruit......we do not see the tree which is in us (our faith/the strength of our will etc).
3) take for example this quote attributed to Isa AS from the Gnostic Gospel of St Thomas
You have become like the Jews.
They love the tree and hate the fruit.
Or they love the fruit and hate the tree.

The tree the jews loved in this case was the family tree of Abraham but Isa AS was the fruit of that tree, who they hated. They also hated the inner tree of faith and loved the outer fruits.
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There is 1 more example

Mark 11:12-14 and 11:20-25
The next day as they were leaving Bethany, Jesus was hungry. Seeing in the distance a fig tree in leaf, he went to find out if it had any fruit. When he reached it, he found nothing but leaves, because it was not the season for figs. Then he said to the tree, “May no one ever eat fruit from you again.” And his disciples heard him say it.


In this example the fig tree represented the jews. The tree was no longer the tree of faith but the tree of lust. This tree, the tree of lust, changes with the seasons.....it isn't solid, it comes and goes.

also

Whoever believes in me, as Scripture has said, rivers of living water will flow from within them."


Compare these quotes to

Surah Kahf


31 For them will be Gardens of Eternity; beneath them rivers will flow; they will be adorned therein with bracelets of gold, and they will wear green garments of fine silk and heavy brocade: They will recline therein on raised thrones. How good the recompense! How beautiful a couch to recline on!

32 Set forth to them the parable of two men: for one of them We provided two gardens of grape-vines and surrounded them with date palms; in between the two We placed corn-fields.

33 Each of those gardens brought forth its produce, and failed not in the least therein: in the midst of them We caused a river to flow.

34 (Abundant) was the produce this man had: he said to his companion, in the course of a mutual argument: "more wealth have I than you, and more honour and power in (my following of) men."

35 He went into his garden in a state (of mind) unjust to his soul: He said, "I deem not that this will ever perish,

36 "Nor do I deem that the Hour (of Judgment) will (ever) come: Even if I am brought back to my Lord, I shall surely find (there) something better in exchange."

37 His companion said to him, in the course of the argument with him: "Dost thou deny Him Who created thee out of dust, then out of a sperm-drop, then fashioned thee into a man?

38 "But (I think) for my part that He is Allah, My Lord, and none shall I associate with my Lord.

39 "Why didst thou not, as thou wentest into thy garden, say: 'Allah's will (be done)! There is no power but with Allah!' If thou dost see me less than thee in wealth and sons,

40 "It may be that my Lord will give me something better than thy garden, and that He will send on thy garden thunderbolts (by way of reckoning) from heaven, making it (but) slippery sand!-

41 "Or the water of the garden will run off underground so that thou wilt never be able to find it."

42 So his fruits (and enjoyment) were encompassed (with ruin), and he remained twisting and turning his hands over what he had spent on his property, which had (now) tumbled to pieces to its very foundations, and he could only say, "Woe is me! Would I had never ascribed partners to my Lord and Cherisher!"


is it any wonder Surah Kahf is THE protection against dajjal? It's reminding us or giving us some insight of the teachings of Isa AS. Remember Isa AS was the one who came with the Good news of the kingdom of heaven. These were his teachings.
Dajjal is the opposite, he is a fruit from that tree of lust The whole thing, it's not about faith, it's about 'manifesting your desires' 'manifesting abundance'


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does this make sense?

one last thing....there's Nothing wrong with seeking something from Allah and wanting it FAST. However it should always be for a greater good in the long run. The dajjalic philosophy is built entirely on lust, It attaches itself to spiritual principles but it has no foundation. That reminds me of something else Isa AS said

The parable of the sower Mark4
He taught them many things by parables, and in his teaching said: 3 “Listen! A farmer went out to sow his seed. 4 As he was scattering the seed, some fell along the path, and the birds came and ate it up. 5 Some fell on rocky places, where it did not have much soil. It sprang up quickly, because the soil was shallow. 6 But when the sun came up, the plants were scorched, and they withered because they had no root. 7 Other seed fell among thorns, which grew up and choked the plants, so that they did not bear grain. 8 Still other seed fell on good soil. It came up, grew and produced a crop, some multiplying thirty, some sixty, some a hundred times.”

9 Then Jesus said, “Whoever has ears to hear, let them hear.”

10 When he was alone, the Twelve and the others around him asked him about the parables. 11 He told them, “The secret of the kingdom of God has been given to you. But to those on the outside everything is said in parables 12 so that,

“‘they may be ever seeing but never perceiving,
and ever hearing but never understanding;
otherwise they might turn and be forgiven!’[a]”

13 Then Jesus said to them, “Don’t you understand this parable? How then will you understand any parable? 14 The farmer sows the word. 15 Some people are like seed along the path, where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them. 16 Others, like seed sown on rocky places, hear the word and at once receive it with joy. 17 But since they have no root, they last only a short time. When trouble or persecution comes because of the word, they quickly fall away. 18 Still others, like seed sown among thorns, hear the word; 19 but the worries of this life, the deceitfulness of wealth and the desires for other things come in and choke the word, making it unfruitful. 20 Others, like seed sown on good soil, hear the word, accept it, and produce a crop—some thirty, some sixty, some a hundred times what was sown.”


the bolded text is basically what we have to worry about

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And we know his promise will be nothing but a deception.. Maybe he will let people think that they are living for 1000 of years by some kind of drug..

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This is just insane.. Reminds me of movie Dredd.

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Dajjal Technology is here. As we know he is a deceiver. He will make all those who follow him believe that there is no afterlife. And he make this world heaven for those who will follow him with all the advance technology and Hell for those who will not follow him.

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amir786, please discuss why you think the anti christ will promise eternal lilfe. provide ANY valid (or invalid) arguments instead of this aimless bouncing one sided parroting

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amir786, please discuss why you think the anti christ will promise eternal lilfe. provide ANY valid (or invalid) arguments instead of this aimless bouncing one sided parroting


How else do you think whole of mankind run towards him.? He will promise them eternal life, eternal youth, wealth, luxuries and all what man can desire, he will promise to give. ALLAH hu Alam.

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thank you amir, thought provoking to be honest.

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His magic and trickery may include advance science.?? He got Healing power. ALLAH hu ALAM

Scientists develop ‘self-healing’ muscles

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