voodoo-modest
View unanswered posts | View active topics It is currently Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:58 am




Reply to topic  [ 18 posts ] 
 Miss Muslimah Contest 
Author Message
Researcher
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:00 am
Posts: 467
Location: USA
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 20 times
Unread post Miss Muslimah Contest
What do you think of this contest? I think it is awesome because it tells people that there are different standards of beauty and that Muslim women are beautiful too. We should have a Mr. Muslim World Competition too. :)

[YTC]
Watch on youtube.com
[/YTC]

_________________
The Noble Qur'an: "Allah does not forbid you to be kind and equitable to those who have neither fought against your faith nor driven you out of your homes. In fact Allah loves the equitable." Surah 60, ayat 8


Tue Dec 16, 2014 5:18 pm
Share on FacebookShare on TwitterShare on TuentiShare on SonicoShare on FriendFeedShare on OrkutShare on DiggShare on MySpaceShare on DeliciousShare on TechnoratiShare on TumblrShare on Google+
Profile
Traveler
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:58 am
Posts: 49
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 3 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
I think my princess it's sinful , not to be backwards or retarded but it just proves that these people are not really into their religon , and hijab for them is just a piece of clothing on their heads

_________________
Why are you leaving me down in this pit
I always carried you son until my spine split
Somebody help me don't leave me here alone
I was safe in my bed and now I'm deep under stone
I don't want to live like this or am I even alive
I see how piles of maggots on my body thrive
Where is my fortune where is my jewellery I wonder
Cos I got nothing covering me now from toe to shoulder
You thought I was invincible but no I can't lie
You never thought that your daddy might someday die


Sun Mar 01, 2015 8:48 am
Profile
Seeker

Joined: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:27 am
Posts: 154
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 12 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
I don't think its sinful, but muslim world is trying to copy western godless and materialistic way of life, which is wrong.

HamzaZbiri, I was in Germany 3 months ago. I saw a "muslim" woman with hijab on her head and very short skirt, so short that if she bends just a lil bit you can see her butt, I almost died laughing haha
You are right when you say that for some women hijab is only piece of clothing and nothing else.


Thu Mar 05, 2015 2:37 pm
Profile
Explorer

Joined: Mon Dec 17, 2012 12:17 am
Posts: 63
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 7 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
There are many "Muslim" woman that try to look sexy in a hijab, which completely defeats its purpose. The idea is for only the husband to be able to appreciate her beauty, not random strangers on the street.

Some type of beauty contest for muslimah's seems like whispers from the shaytan. These woman need to ask themselves why they need validation from strangers.


Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:11 am
Profile
Traveler
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:58 am
Posts: 49
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 3 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
I personally ( and i m not saying this because i m muslim ) find Hijabi women to be very beautiful , because the hijab brings out their souls , and mixes with their exterior appearance the thing that makes them seem beautiful as persons with boundaries and not pieces of meat , they look luminous like stars in a desert night sky

_________________
Why are you leaving me down in this pit
I always carried you son until my spine split
Somebody help me don't leave me here alone
I was safe in my bed and now I'm deep under stone
I don't want to live like this or am I even alive
I see how piles of maggots on my body thrive
Where is my fortune where is my jewellery I wonder
Cos I got nothing covering me now from toe to shoulder
You thought I was invincible but no I can't lie
You never thought that your daddy might someday die


Fri Mar 06, 2015 6:38 am
Profile
Specialist
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jul 27, 2010 12:47 pm
Posts: 2646
Has thanked: 2 times
Been thanked: 11 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
I'm not going to judge them from a moral perspective but this is all just part of this online instagram/selfie culture which is basically fake as fffff.

_________________
Image


Fri Mar 06, 2015 2:28 pm
Profile
WUP Media
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:16 pm
Posts: 1701
Location: Jérusalem
Has thanked: 11 times
Been thanked: 19 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
My good and great sister Amica

I'm sure that you remember that Allah said to women that they need to hide their beauty, right ? :)

That's why this topic must be removed.

_________________
Ahmed Gassama humbly presents to you his new series




It will be very easy for me to give you the kind of news that you like to hear, if i tell you that you're important that you're beloved that you're valued but i'm not gonna do that because i have got some BAD NEWS!! you see you are none of the above in fact you are cowardly gollabal sheep who are ultimately gonna follow one another to the slaughter, thank you very much!!


Fri Mar 06, 2015 5:09 pm
Profile WWW
Seeker

Joined: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:27 am
Posts: 154
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 12 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
AhmedGassama wrote:
That's why this topic must be removed.


Removed? Why? -Thats pathetic response. Good that someone started this actually, good topic for discussion.


HamzaZbiri wrote:
I personally ( and i m not saying this because i m muslim ) find Hijabi women to be very beautiful , because the hijab brings out their souls , and mixes with their exterior appearance the thing that makes them seem beautiful as persons with boundaries and not pieces of meat , they look luminous like stars in a desert night sky


Well, if woman is bad she will be bad with or without hijab on her head. Hijab does not represent her soul. Believe me, there are women with hijab that are anything but muslim.


Sat Mar 07, 2015 12:59 pm
Profile
WUP Media
User avatar

Joined: Tue Mar 22, 2011 12:16 pm
Posts: 1701
Location: Jérusalem
Has thanked: 11 times
Been thanked: 19 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
Exactly there is women without Hijab who have good hearts and there is women with hijab who have evil souls.
But this is not the problem !

Just like there is good Muslims, there bad Muslims ---> this does not mean that Islam is bad !

Allah recommended women to hide their beauty and you're still want to discuss about the subject ?

_________________
Ahmed Gassama humbly presents to you his new series




It will be very easy for me to give you the kind of news that you like to hear, if i tell you that you're important that you're beloved that you're valued but i'm not gonna do that because i have got some BAD NEWS!! you see you are none of the above in fact you are cowardly gollabal sheep who are ultimately gonna follow one another to the slaughter, thank you very much!!


Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:54 pm
Profile WWW
Traveler
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:58 am
Posts: 49
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 3 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
@Sonny , That's accurate , but the majority of Hijabi women are as good as they appear to be , and to give a closer picture of what I mean take a look at levant women . besides , we are muslims , and we must think the best of each other , as long as we are muslims .

_________________
Why are you leaving me down in this pit
I always carried you son until my spine split
Somebody help me don't leave me here alone
I was safe in my bed and now I'm deep under stone
I don't want to live like this or am I even alive
I see how piles of maggots on my body thrive
Where is my fortune where is my jewellery I wonder
Cos I got nothing covering me now from toe to shoulder
You thought I was invincible but no I can't lie
You never thought that your daddy might someday die


Tue Mar 10, 2015 7:03 am
Profile
Sister's Group Moderator & Official WUP Welcome Wagon Greeter
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 20, 2009 7:21 pm
Posts: 3924
Has thanked: 12 times
Been thanked: 16 times
Unread post Covered Or Not
It's still meat parade. I wonder why these girls bother to expose themselves even if it's a covered one. You don't need a measure for your beauty or your intelligence. God created everyone and everything equal. Just remember that.

By putting a number to yourself, you're putting a number to your riya' as well. I think it's sick the world that we're living now.

Truly Muslims have no place on this earth except to be like everybody else.

A: "Hijab is weird." :lolno:

B: "Hey we have a remedy for that.." :thumbup:

_________________
. . ~ ^ * > Dearest New Female Members < * ^ ~ . .

Please join the Sisters group here > http://www.wup-forum.com/ucp.php?i=167

Do PM me if you have any queries regarding the lounge


Ask yourselves. Does God want us all divided, or united?
After that you can pat yourselves in the back or shoot yourselves in the foot.


Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:27 am
Profile
Traveler
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:58 am
Posts: 49
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 3 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
"Hijab is weird" was that a false statement ?

_________________
Why are you leaving me down in this pit
I always carried you son until my spine split
Somebody help me don't leave me here alone
I was safe in my bed and now I'm deep under stone
I don't want to live like this or am I even alive
I see how piles of maggots on my body thrive
Where is my fortune where is my jewellery I wonder
Cos I got nothing covering me now from toe to shoulder
You thought I was invincible but no I can't lie
You never thought that your daddy might someday die


Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:40 am
Profile
Specialist
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 22, 2011 7:05 am
Posts: 4942
Location: ...in the shell
Has thanked: 309 times
Been thanked: 135 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
Well said sister Qleo.

There are clear and logical reasons why Muslim women and men should not enter beauty contests.

The Hijaab is supposed to promote and instil modesty

The beauty contests do the opposite, and the"aura" of the women is drooled over by millions - where is the modesty???

What about the makeup? that's supposed to be reserved for her man, her husband - but in a beauty contest - she's everyones wife.

And you know, the whole Miss Muslimah contest thing reminds me of a certain episode in the lifetime of our prophet Muhammad pbuh.

When the dawah reached the Jews and Christians, they were surprised to hear they had been referred to as "idolators". They (the Christians and the Jews) disputed Islam by claiming that they were not idolators, but monotheists - and so, read the following ayah to understand how deep idolatry can go.

They (Jews and Christians) took their rabbis and their monks to be their lords besides Allah (by obeying them in things which they made lawful or unlawful according to their own desires without being ordered by Allah), and (they also took as their Lord) Messiah, son of Maryam (Mary), while they (Jews and Christians) were commanded [in the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)) to worship none but One Ilah (God - Allah) La ilaha illa Huwa (none has the right to be worshipped but He). Praise and glory be to Him, (far above is He) from having the partners they associate (with Him)." [9:31] (http://quran.com/9/31)

I ask, how is this any different? The Miss Muslimah contest has been given you by a Muslim nation where it had to be vetted and approved by a council of scholars... if you ascribe to them in this matter then you have done no different to what the Jews did in Jerusalem when they rejected the teachings of the Torah and listened to their rabbis instead.

You need to really consider the implications of a Miss Muslimah contest like this.

@Ahmed, this thread should not be binned - it should stay for reference so in future others can read what went down here in sha Allah.

@HamzaZbiri - she was presenting it as a thought process one uses to justify the Miss Muslimah contest, to expose their faulty logic. it was a short but effective post i believe.

Amica wrote:
What do you think of this contest? I think it is awesome because it tells people that there are different standards of beauty and that Muslim women are beautiful too. ]


So you are of the opinion that the rest of the world believes Muslim women to be ugly? or something? really? I mean, this is really a very weak argument.

Beauty of a woman should be hidden sister Amica - not shown off for the world to see and think "hmmm, those Muslim chicks are really fit aint they? wonder if I can bag one for the night - oh feck it - let's go to Dubai where we can get an Arab prossie"

your thought processes lead to these kinda talks from men with disgusting hearts... and let it be known that no man who fears Allah would ever even watch such a beauty contest in the first place.

You would prefer to let a contest like this be an avenue to sin for men and women alike just so you can feel "beautiful" sister? this is really very very wrong.

Read Tuhfat al Aroos - you may be able to get some good info from that book in sha Allah.

Scimi

_________________
Image


I have nothing to do with any recommendations to join any war on any person , race or community. I do not support ISIS nor any other movement, I am here solely for the purpose to seek opportunities to unite mankind, I seek to look at common ground and choose to ignore differences. I do not support violence, I condemn it. I have no affiliations with any promoting of violence be it political, racial or religious.


Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:52 am
Profile
Seeker

Joined: Sat Mar 23, 2013 10:27 am
Posts: 154
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 12 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
HamzaZbiri wrote:
"Hijab is weird" was that a false statement ?


I think you don't understand point she is trying to make.


Qleophathyr wrote:
It's still meat parade.


:D

"Meat parade", I will remember this one :D


Thu Mar 12, 2015 12:18 pm
Profile
Traveler
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:58 am
Posts: 49
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 3 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
I don't think so either

_________________
Why are you leaving me down in this pit
I always carried you son until my spine split
Somebody help me don't leave me here alone
I was safe in my bed and now I'm deep under stone
I don't want to live like this or am I even alive
I see how piles of maggots on my body thrive
Where is my fortune where is my jewellery I wonder
Cos I got nothing covering me now from toe to shoulder
You thought I was invincible but no I can't lie
You never thought that your daddy might someday die


Thu Mar 12, 2015 3:58 pm
Profile
Traveler
User avatar

Joined: Sun Mar 01, 2015 6:58 am
Posts: 49
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 3 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
Oh I get see lol , I get it bro thanks i didnt read "B"

_________________
Why are you leaving me down in this pit
I always carried you son until my spine split
Somebody help me don't leave me here alone
I was safe in my bed and now I'm deep under stone
I don't want to live like this or am I even alive
I see how piles of maggots on my body thrive
Where is my fortune where is my jewellery I wonder
Cos I got nothing covering me now from toe to shoulder
You thought I was invincible but no I can't lie
You never thought that your daddy might someday die


Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:01 pm
Profile
Specialist
User avatar

Joined: Sun May 22, 2011 7:05 am
Posts: 4942
Location: ...in the shell
Has thanked: 309 times
Been thanked: 135 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
So, I watched the whole thing on BBC iplayer, and it really wasn't what I was expecting - it was in fact - very weird for a beauty pageant :) refreshingly weird...

...here it is:



Scimi

_________________
Image


I have nothing to do with any recommendations to join any war on any person , race or community. I do not support ISIS nor any other movement, I am here solely for the purpose to seek opportunities to unite mankind, I seek to look at common ground and choose to ignore differences. I do not support violence, I condemn it. I have no affiliations with any promoting of violence be it political, racial or religious.


Fri Mar 20, 2015 1:04 pm
Profile
Researcher
User avatar

Joined: Mon Apr 06, 2009 2:00 am
Posts: 467
Location: USA
Has thanked: 0 time
Been thanked: 20 times
Unread post Re: Miss Muslimah Contest
Tha :salaam:

Thank you for your input, everyone. I thought it is an interesting discussion topic. Should Muslims do this or not? I liked the idea of the Islamic values of character, morals, charity, religious practice, etc. as being part of the pageant and how a woman's outside appearance itself is not the only reason why she must be beautiful. It is just a small piece of a complete person.

We Muslims feel that we need to prove ourselves a lot these days. Partially because there are bad Muslims out there who make it harder for the rest of us to maintain a positive public image. At the same time, I feel that we are succumbing to the pressure to conform, to do things like others are doing, etc. Not that the others are doing things always wrong. They are not. There are many positive values non-Muslims have and practice, and I personally see no problem for those to be adopted (like advancements in technology and sciences, rights of women to vote, work in any profession, being able to move freely without a chaperone). However, why should we conform to those values that might be contradictory? Is the Muslim beauty pageant evidence of such conformity or not?

Part of me thinks it is not. Rather, such pageant shows Muslim answer to Western propagation of what "beauty" means and violence perpetrated by Muslims in some nations to oppose Miss Universe non-Muslim pageant (so we show that we value women for who they are and are not savages).

_________________
The Noble Qur'an: "Allah does not forbid you to be kind and equitable to those who have neither fought against your faith nor driven you out of your homes. In fact Allah loves the equitable." Surah 60, ayat 8


Tue Mar 31, 2015 7:03 am
Profile
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Reply to topic   [ 18 posts ] 

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 3 guests


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Search for:
Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB® Forum Software © phpBB Group
Wake Up Project Copyright 2013 All Rights Reserved

phpBB SEO
Wake Up Project

Like us on FaceBook!