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At 3:33 Sami Yusuf with Freemasons and obviously being a freemason

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bro the vid is crap, 2 voices talking through each other, sounds a bit like waswasa lol and the choking voices, not enjoyable to listen to

i think one who made this vid is kind of a idiot.

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bro the vid is crap, 2 voices talking through each other, sounds a bit like waswasa lol and the choking voices, not enjoyable to listen to

i think one who made this vid is kind of a idiot.


you must use all your force to listen and concentrate, at least we can agree maher zain and jewi sami yusuf are agents of the nwo. and their lyrics are damn satanic too !

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I personally knows Mahir Zain since a long time and I can tell you he is a very religious young man!

He does his music so all the muslims that are listning to hiphop and gaga music stops and starts listning to "halal" music..with halal music he and many others mean that its music withour words degenerating to women and sexualy abusive words and about satan.

He as a person is very devout muslim, never miss a prayer and a very kind heart since childhood!


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This video really just violated me

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Brother you have to be very careful when making such accusations against muslims because you're trespassing into the realm of slander and making Takfir.

Maher Zain and Sami Yusuf are both muslims and you are in absolutely no authority of knowing what their inward states you neither do you have any knowledge of what state they'll be in when they die. Calling them a freemason/nwo agent/jew is making takfir as you are calling them a non-muslim and you have to be very careful when doing that because if you call someone a Kafir without truly knowing that inwardly and outwardly they are a Kafir, then that will just make you the Kafir! And you will never be able to know what these people's inward state is so you'll just be at a great risk of making yourself a Kafir by doing that.

Watch this video from 1:50 onwards:

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Everyone watch the video and dont tell me I called him kafir, He is clearly out of from the right path with learning 5 languages in order to use it in musics , and MUSIC is haraam, Dont make excuses and dont say " we are getting nearer to Allah" . You obviously have been heavily deceived by this worldly enjoyment through your ears. As for maher zain, his songs are very disgusting . when i first realized that he was singing about Islam I felt so much hate. This is MOCKERY if you have faith!! actualyl they both are very disgusting humans.

Nasheeds with "HALAL" music, Imagine a Muslim has a pig and he slaughters that pig as qurban with best intentions...

Music is haram but remembering Allah or with musical instruments is close to istihzaa (mockery).
There is no hadeeth that would allow musical instruments. They sung nasheed in Madeenah, but it was without music, and Rasulullah s.a.w.s. permitted only daff for underage girls. Abu Haneefah said, I'm translating his words: "who listens to music is a faasiq (sinner), but who finds delight in music is a kafir, for indeed Allah has made Al-Qur'an as delight of the hearts of the believers, and music is the speech of shaitan, so who finds delight in it is a kafir".

Prophet (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) said: “In my ummah there will be people who allow fornication/adultery (zina), silk, wine and musical instruments [ma’aazif] .... Then during the night Allaah will destroy them by causing the mountain to fall upon them, while He changes others into apes and swine. They will remain in such a state until the Day of Resurrection.’”(Bukhari)


Case Closed !

And woe to those who IMITATE KAFIRS WOE TO THOSE !! WOE TO THOSE WHO GO TO CONCERTS AND IMITATE THE KAFIRS ! How disgusting is that ! You will follow the jews and christians inch by inch ! wake better up

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Woah easy there!

You did call Maher Zain an agent of the nwo, you also called Sami Yusuf a freemason and a jew. That is clearly slander and stating they are not muslims is making a claim that they are a kafir.

Just because Maher Zain and Sami Yusuf are musicians doesn't make a Kafir. Many muslims do many things that are doubtful to things that are downright haram. There are many muslims so deal with interest, backbite, slander, are disloyal to their parents, drink alcohol, have girlfriend/boyfriends etc. Yet all those acts doesn't make anyone who believes in Allah (swt) and his Messenger (pbuh) a kafir or out of Islam.

Bottom line is you DO NOT know the state of the hearts of these people and hence you are no authority to judge them or "expose" them.


Also one shouldn't go around labelling things as "haram" without the proper knowledge. Watch this video about the ruling on music in Islam, its not as simple and black and white as you think it is:

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This is Mahir Zains and Sami Yusufs record lable's logo

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not saying anything, just weird.

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Woah easy there!


dear brother!
In that serious matter one cannot be with ease... Never is a sin to be taken lightly!

If you would see what I´ve seen then you would weep much and laugh less - Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him.
Allah has sent me as a mercy for all the worlds and has commanded me to destroy all musical instruments.
( Musnad Ahmad- Tirmidhi)


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You did call Maher Zain an agent of the nwo, you also called Sami Yusuf a freemason and a jew. That is clearly slander and stating they are not muslims is making a claim that they are a kafir.


Forgive my slander, but whose faith is not challenged when the muslim listens to their voices and MUSIC ?

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Just because Maher Zain and Sami Yusuf are musicians doesn't make a Kafir.

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Also one shouldn't go around labelling things as "haram" without the proper knowledge.


Very Fine!

Ibn al-Qayyim (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: How strange! What type of faith, light, insight, guidance and knowledge can be gained from listening to tuneful verses and music in which most of what is said is haraam and deserves the wrath and punishment of Allaah and His Messenger? … How can anyone who has the least amount of insight and faith in his heart draw near to Allaah and increase his faith by enjoying something which is hated by Him, and He detests the one who says it and the one who accepts it? (Madaarij al-Saalikeen, 1/485) THIS GOES TO THE SINGER AND THE LISTENER !

The Hanafi Ulema

1)Allamah Sarakhshi states:The testimony of a singer,who gathers people and is accompanied by people for the purpose of such entertainment,will not be accepted.
(Mabsood p.139/16)

The Shafi'i Ulema

Ibn Qayyim states:Listening to the music of a strange woman and a beardless youth is one of the greatest prohibited acts.Imam shafi states in regards to the owner of a female slave;that if he gathers the people to listen to her then he is a foolish person whose testimony will not be accepted and above this,he is regarded as Dayyooth (cuckold).
(Ighasatul-Malhoff p.229/1)

Sheik al Islam Ibn Taymiyah (may Allaah have mercy on him) said: It is not permissible to make musical instruments. (al-Majmoo’, 22/140)


I cant believe how LOW A MUSLIM HAS TO GO TO SAY THAT BY LISTENING TO THESE BLING BLING PEOPLE WE ARE GETTING NEARER TO ALLAH ??!! WHAT IS WITH THE QURAN, IS IT NOT ENOUGH ? WHAT IS WITH FASTING ? WHAT IS WITH KILLING YOUR NAFS INSTEAD OF FEEDING IT? HAVE YOUR SENSES DECEIVED YOU? HAVE YOUR EARS DECEIVED YOU?


There will be a people of my ummah who will seek to make lawful: fornication,the wearing of silk,the drinking of wine,and the use of musical instruments.
(Bukhari)

The use of musical instruments is mentioned together with these sins and is also classified with them.... so then logically music is a sin too! isnt it?

if you are still not convinced then read this

Narrated Abdullah ibn Mas'ud:

Salam ibn Miskin, quoting an old man who witnessed AbuWa'il in a wedding feast, said: They began to play, amuse and sing. He united the support of his hand round his knees that were drawn up, and said: I heard Abdullah (ibn Mas'ud) say: I heard the apostle of Allah peace be upon him say: Singing produces hypocrisy in the heart. (Dawood) YOU MAYBE UNDERSTAND WHY I SAID EARLIER THEY´RE DISGUSTING HUMANS !

If singing produces hypocrisy then what is it with listening to them? Its halal to listen to them? IS IT ? YOU THINK ITS HALAL TO LISTEN TO THOSE WHO USE THEIR VOICE AND BODY FOR A SATANIC PURPOSE?

"yeah we listen to sami yusuf now we are good muslims and we get nearer to Allah! "

What the hell is going on ?! If you give dirty drop to a clear glass of pure water then it will mixed with it! and the purity will get dirty ! the more you add drops the more the hypocrisy increases ! think logical !


Dont show me such hamza yusf videos to teach me , If you really know better how come you defend these sinners ?! and tell me to stay back, AT LEAST HATE IT IN YOUR HEART IF YOU DONT SPEAK AGAINST IT; AND EVEN NOT TO DO SOMETHING AGAINST IT WITH YOUR HANDS (destroying the instruments).

SERIOUSLY WHAT HAS DONE RAMADAN TO THE HEARTS OF MUSLIMS ?!

I of course do not know the content of the hearts, and you NEITHER do not know how I think but you can see it through my attitude ! Im here speaking against the disgusting attitude of some so called "muslims" who use their time and bodies for something evil. Clearly if it does not offend your faith then may Allah enlighten you!


That poor sami yusuf , Im not surprised how he tried to find an excuse with his stuttering voice while being a singer of the western sense, how can it be islamic to use instruments and even mention Allah at the same time , IS THIS ISLAM? THIS IS MOCKERY ! THIS IS HYPOCRISY !


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This is really so unlike you, something wrong?

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What should be wrong? Unlike me?

Yes I Why didnt I speak against that mockery of Islam earlier ?

As for the video with the stuttering sami yusuf, according to the introducer sami yusuf said " its Islam´s answer to christian rock "

..... Yep. You will follow the jews and christians inch by inch.

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You still need to calm down.

If you don't agree with what Sami Yusuf is doing, then just say you believe what he's doing is not acceptable and leave it there. No need to go around slandering these muslims.

Also you cannot let your personal thoughts and emotions direct what you believe is right and wrong in Islam. You can't just cherry pick different Hadiths and narrations and make up an argument for how muslim is haram. It requires a deep knowledge and understanding of the hadiths to develop the argument.

If you bothered listening to the Sk. Hamza video I posted earlier you'ld find out that he addresses all the points you mentioned in your post. And guess what, he agrees with most of what you posted. Just because Sk. Hamza might come from a different tradition to yours and have different views over certain things in Islam doesn't make him any less of a Scholar. He is one of the most learned and influential scholar in the western world.

As I mentioned previously, many muslims do lots of things that are close to haram to downright haram. In this day and age one needs to be merciful and easy with the people. The Prophet (saws) was never hard and harsh on his followers. Getting into Islam and finding the straight way is a slow process. If you're hard on people, you'll only drive them further away from Islam. If you don't show mercy to others, you'll never be able to guide them to the right path. Don't go into religion so hard that you'll come straight out the other side like an arrow going through the target.

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Woah. Just reading this xD

Myself, I'm completely split between the 2.

Not that my thoughts may count, but I partly agree with tracingspirals.

I've only just started listening to Maher Zain and outlandish and all sorts of 'Islamic raps', since Ramadan ended. Yes, music is a really controversial topic, but it all comes down to intention at the end of the day right? I ain't saying, that you can kill someone with the intention that they'll go to heaven or something... crazy. My point being, the majority of the youth today need something they can easily relate to. It so damn easy to turn on the radio and get sucked into Haraaam music promoting sex.

Yes, many scholars may disagree with the use of Musical instruments. Then again, if you're listening to the likes of Sami Yusuf, then what's going to get your attention? The piano playing in the background or the lyrics? Obviously a person needs to work on their own Imaan in order to make the best decision.

Funny I come across this thread actually, coz I had a debate with someone today about the use of musical instruments. My response was simply "Blah", maybe coz I'm ignorant. But it made me think a lot harder, and UnrealPrince, you've made *some* good points there, just be careful at the accusations though. =

IMO, they ain't promoting Fitna in any way. They're not dividing the Ummah, nor slandering anything. If they're sending across a STRONG message and doing it simply for the sake of God, you can't really say nothing. What's worse, listening to western music, or an Islamic nasheed?

Arguing over matters like these ain't gonna benefit us in the long-term is it? It'll just create hatred, ignorance and indeed, make a person more arrogant.


Why not leave the judgement to Allah instead eh.

Anyway, forgive me for writing so much and if If I've totally gone off the point. =


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If you don't agree with what Sami Yusuf is doing, then just say you believe what he's doing is not acceptable and leave it there. No need to go around slandering these muslims.


Why do you have such a deluded thinking? You tell me I should not state that they work for the nwo because I do not know what is in their hearts, but from their hearts do come their intentions, and thus their actions! how the hell do you defend the sinners. And the ahadith are very clear to understand. Its all about singing and musical instruments which both are involved today in our society. And they very well work for the NWO, with concious or not with it.


AND HOW THE HELL DO YOU CALL THEM MUSLIMS ??? HOW DO YOU KNOW WHAT IS IN THEIR HEARTS ? LOOK AT THIS DAMN IRONY! THEIR SINFUL ACTIONS SPEAK FOR THEMSELVES AND THEY HAVE NOT LEFT IT !

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Also you cannot let your personal thoughts and emotions direct what you believe is right and wrong in Islam.


These are not my personal thinkings, oh God! I cant believe your faith is not challenged when you hear such a disgusting mockery to Islam by these singers ! When you know that music is haraam and then hear a singer singing about Islam, how then dont you feel any mockery about Islam? This is like making Qurban with a pig by so called "muslims" and other muslims get deceived by this... shaytan plays very well his game !!
Its VERY ignorant to say to leave them alone with their sinful works. Or do we live in a time of Jahilya ? Do we? Do we live in a ignorant time where muslims leave the sinners alone, where its not important to warn muslims of sinful things?

YOU NEITHER CANNOT JUSTIFY SUCH ACTIONS BY SAYING THERE ARE SO MANY OTHER MUSLIMS DOING SINS; WHAT IS THE LOGIC BEHIND THIS ? THE OTHER SINS WILL BE RETRIBUTED AND ASWELL ALL OTHER SINS TOO!

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Allah´s Apostle said, " When an adulterer commits illegal intercourse, then he is NOT a believer at the time he is doing it; and when somebody drinks an alcoholic drink,then he is not a believer at the time of drinking; and when a thief steals, he is not a believer at the time of stealing; and when a robber robs and people look at him, he is not a believer at this time of doing it "




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Just because Sk. Hamza might come from a different tradition to yours and have different views over certain things in Islam doesn't make him any less of a Scholar.


Why do you have such a deluded thinking? WHAT DIFFERENT TRADITION? WHAT DIFFERENT VIEW? DID I EVER SAY THAT HE IS WRONG ? DID I EVER DISPRESPECT HIM? WHAT DO YOU REPROACH ME OF? WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABUOT MY "TRADITION" ? DO YOU EVEN RESPECT WHAT HE SAYS AND ACCEPT IT?


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The Prophet peace be upon him was clearly harsh against sins, and He punished sinners well!
the use of musical instrument is mentioned together with fornication... where are you excuses now?
Of course the Prophet peace be upon him was not harsh when he was teaching the Sahaba, BUT PUNISHING AND TEACHING IS VERY DIFFERENT.

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My response was simply "Blah"


Yes. This is very ignorant. It means you do not care for your own salvation and you follow your nafs, as music feeds your nafs and you try to defend it.

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If they're sending across a STRONG message and doing it simply for the sake of God


La haula wa la Quwatta illa Billah , attaining Taqwa through something which Allah detests? Where did you loose your mind???

and I do stand for the saying that they are good puppets of the NWO, as their logo clearly shows that !

Seriously tracingpirals and everyone who tries to justify/defend these singing sinners , You can fool yourself but you cannot fool Allah !

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I understand your message and for the sake for not causing any animosity against one another in our hearts, I ask you to forgive me for saying things I shouldn't have said. Salam alaikum.

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I apogolise for being so furious, forgive me .

I felt dirt being thrown to Islam and didnt expect defence, I apogolise brother.

You are very right, there must be no emnity towards us. Allah expects us to hold together !

may Allah accept our good intentions and deeds, may Allah save us from the sin of Nifaq, Kufr and Shirk ! Ameen.

I highly recommend to read the letter of Ivonne Ridley to Sami Yusuf, and also the response of Sami Yusuf. You wont trust your eyes....

salam alaikum rahmatullah wa barakatu!

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Pah. Dude typing in caps and quoting Hadith's without sufficient evidence don't make you in the right.

Don't use what I say against me. Just because I admit that I may be slightly ignorant (aren't we all), you don't choose to use it to your advantage.

Clearly your cage has been rattled a few times over this matter if you think I lost my mind.

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. So, if you don’t like what I say then don’t bother “quoting” it. Simple as.

Its people such as yourself who drive others away from Islam. Whyyy do you have to come across so damn aggressive? Islam was not spread by the force of the sword and the Prophet (Peace be upon him) never once said a word that would offend others.

I'd leave you with one thought but I wouldn't know if you have anywhere to put it.

Practice what you preach.


Oh forgot to add, its so hard not to hate another person, yet I forgive you brother solely for the sake of Allah.

May Allah guide me (since I ain't so "knowledgeable" as you), and create sincerity in our hearts. Do forgive me.

saalam.


Thu Aug 23, 2012 1:52 pm
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