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There are three aspects of Dajjal:

1. The individual

2. A world wide social and cultural phenomenon

3. An unseen force.


Ubadah ibn Saamit radiyallahu anhu narrates that the Last Prophet (peace & blessings be upon him) said, ‘I have explained Dajjal to you, but I fear that you might not have understood. Maseeh-ud-Dajjal will be short and his legs will be crooked. The hair on his head will be extremely twisted. He will have one eye, while his other eye will be flat. It will be neither deep, nor protruding.’

No doubt, the prophet Muhammad on whom be peace was clearly talking about a person.
But (for me) the origin of Dajjal is somewhat unclear.

In one hadith it is mentioned that Dajjal is chained somewere on an island and in another hadith it is mentioned that he will be born into this world by jewish parents. Some questions arise. Does the hadith 1 day like a week include his birth and the time to reach a certain age or does it mean that this "day like week" will start when he will take power as an adult and rule the world from jerusalem? Was the chained on an island part before his manifestation and birth into this world? I understand we are dealing with the subject of time and dimensions here. I'm just trying to understand.
[edit] Actually i made a mistake, he will be in our dimension of time the remaining days, like the hadith mentions. So 40-3 (days like a year, month, week), so 37, 24 hour days

He was seen by people with their physical eyes chained on that island. He was around in a day like a year but still not in our dimension of time, so i guess when he revealed himself to the people who saw him on that island he made a jump into the third dimensions, like the Jinn sometimes do. To proof what? In one way he warned the prophet on whom be peace and his followers about his "soon to come" debute. So actually he helped us out and warned us to stay away from him and that we should follow the prophet Muhammad on whom be peace. Isn't that amazing? I remember the topic started by brother Geert about should we hate the Dajjal. In this case the Dajjal didn't came with a smile but with a warning and told that it is better for us if we followed the prophet saws.

Again, im just trying to understand.
We really should follow his (dajjal's) advice on this. He adviced us to follow the prophet Muhammad on whom be peace and thus follow the Qur'an the Sunnah. If we do this we screen ourselves from his fitnah. He isn't the enemy afterall, or is he? Ofcourse he is, but like i mentioned before in another topic, he was created to fool the people into thinking that he is the masih. And we know better, alhamdullilah.
And Allah knows best.
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In one hadith it is mentioned that Dajjal is chained somewere on an island and in another hadith it is mentioned that he will be born into this world by jewish parents. Some questions arise. Does the hadith 1 day like a week include his birth and the time to reach a certain age or does it mean that this "day like week" will start when he will take power as an adult and rule the world from jerusalem? Was the chained on an island part before his manifestation and birth into this world? I understand we are dealing with the subject of time and dimensions here. I'm just trying to understand.


very good point/questions bro....AllaahuA3lim

Haroot and Maroot, the two angles who taught people magic which is forbidden in the time of prophet Solomon [as], warned the people of that time that they were not but a trail and fitnah….yet people still followed them….The Dajjal is similar in his warnings to follow the prophet, but when he is unleashed he will not be that transparently generous and forwardly honest….no, he will be everything but.

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Salaam.. You know brother DeenuKnow you said
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If we do this we screen ourselves from his fitnah. He isn't the enemy afterall, or is he? Ofcourse he is, but like i mentioned before in another topic, he was created to fool the people into thinking that he is the masih. And we know better, alhamdullilah.


... you know every one has an understanding of Dajjal according to their own thoughts in their mind. Like one i have, to explain it to others or to understand Dajjal myself. I call him a Surprise Test.... You know why ? Since he (dajjal) is so important as Muhammad (saw) said "There was no prophet who did not warn their nation....even Noah (a.s) warned his nation..."...
These words show that He is a Definitely a Major Test for All Mankind, ever to come till the End of the World. Now why i think he is a Surprise Test, well you know i give the example, that throughout the whole year you study in a class with your teacher and she teaches you each and every thing! Does not leave any thing behind from the Book and then says that next month there's a Test but does not mention the Date.... she wants to Surprise us .... and see if we fail or pass... well we know its in say for example next month, we know it would take place within those 30 days of the month but we don't know the exact date... now the ones who would prepare themselves will always be ready, but the ones who didn't bother to read the Book and study will be shocked when the Test is placed in front of their Eyes on their Desk....

So Our Teacher (Muhammad (saw)) taught us from the Curriculum given by the Principal (Allah) , everything, leaving nothing behind... now the ones who would keep practicing will succeed InshAllah .....

And also This Fitna (dajjal) is so serious and So serious as mentioned in the Hadith above..... because every Prophet (pbut) warned us.... But its Surprising that its not mentioned in the Quran ??? Isn't that Surprising ? Well the Reason i think is that , this is only what it could mean that he (dajjal) is not mentioned, because , again the Teachers Example, why would the Madrassah (School) include in the Book that "Surprise Test will take place this DAY"... it won't obviously.... because they have to see how much have you worked Hard for it ? But have they Provided you with everything that is required to pass ?? Yes!

So when Muhammad (saw) mentioned the Hadith of "Dajjal will enter a day which is like a Year... a day which is like a month...."... this is actually the same as the Teacher telling us that Surprise Test will take place "this Month" for example she says.... month of October! So Muhammad (saw) did mention how and when will the test be but left for the ones to see with TWO Eyes (Internal and External) to determine the right moment, so they can prepare for It when its time keeps getting close... and so the best person i think on planet Earth to explain this hadith very close to its real meaning is none other than Sheikh Imran Hosein...

One more thing that Muhammad (saw) said was.... he gave us the Key or in a Teachers Example, Important Chapters ... well what is the KEY ?? The Key that i think is that he not only called him Dajjal which means "Deceiver" ... but He also Called Him "The False Messiah".. well Hold ON! Who is the Messiah or Masih ?? Is he mentioned in the Quran ?? YES! Only One person is Mentioned in the Whole Quran with the Name Masih... Messiah Jesus :).... so that Means he Would become Jesus or claim to be "real Messiah" while he is, On the real A False Messiah .... Now Did Muhammad (saw) ever said in any hadith that Dajjal will claim to be Jesus ?? To my knowledge i haven't found any hadith that says Such! There are many hadith which mentioned Dajjal and Jesus fighting against each other, but never have i read a hadith saying 'Dajjal will claim to be Jesus', that surprises us why Muhammad (saw) did not tell us that ? Because he gave us everything in the Hadith regarding Dajjal and Quran explains the Real Jesus and Hadith explains his Return, also Quran, so Now its up to Us TO Study, by researching Quran And Hadith and reading World events and History, under their Light and figure out whether we are getting close to both of their return so we can do good in the test. Nothing comes Free man! So the Key or Important Chapters that Muhammad (saw) gave us to prepare for this Surprise Test are all Chapters which talk about Jesus or to be more clear just Study Jesus and try to understand Him and what happened and what he went through, only under the Light of Quran, so one can understand how close we get to the Time of Dajjal and then other points that we can look in to are, day like a year and a day like a mnth etc...... also then come all the Hadith which explain where Jesus (a.s) would arrive and etc etc....

this is what i think of Dajjal...A Surprise Test from Allah..


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Question?

What, if any, is the relationship between the Dajjal and Satan?

You can add Djinn, demons, fallen Angels, into the equation too.


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JazakAllah khayr brother syed_z.

With a true understanding of tawheed and the pearls of wisdom from our beloved prophet Muhammad saws we should be able to recognize him and his strategies, insa'Allah.
In context, the jews are still awaiting their promissed masih who would return the golden age. They didn't accept isa a.s and tried to kill him. Its almost payback time now. Isa a.s is the masih of righteousness, dajjal the masih of evil. May Allah make it clear for us to recognize.

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Tony wrote:
Question?

What, if any, is the relationship between the Dajjal and Satan?


They both operate from the darkside. But we need them both to learn righteousness. The story behind satan was explained in the Qur'an. Arrogance and racism. Dajjal, the final test and the most difficult since every prophet from Adam till Muhammad peace and blessing upon them warned us about. I see it like Satan (iblis) being the chief of the Jinns and Dajjal being both in our dimension of time and in the dimension of the Jinn, like some kind of link between the 2. We should prepare for a tsnumi of Dajjal's unseen force. How can we close those doors. By building ourselves spiritually. The Human race is strong. But we are influenced by the satanic forces and became paralized. So again, i believe Satan is the chief of evil but he is not dajjal. But certainly he saved his best for last.

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Dajjal was also created by Allah specifically to decieve and test the people whom say "we have faith" to see who is true to himself and who isn't.


As for djinn, demons, and fallen angels, we only believe in djinns(assuming jinns). Fallen angels don't exist for Muslims, since angels don't have the right to choice, but they serve God/Allah with their life. Djinns can somewhat be classified as demons I guess? They're madeo ut of a smoke-less fire, but there's different classes of djinn like efreet whom are a stronger class.


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I see it like Satan (iblis) being the chief of the Jinns and Dajjal being both in our dimension of time and in the dimension of the Jinn, like some kind of link between the 2. We should prepare for a tsnumi of Dajjal's unseen force. How can we close those doors. By building ourselves spiritually. The Human race is strong. But we are influenced by the satanic forces and became paralized. So again, i believe Satan is the chief of evil but he is not dajjal. But certainly he saved his best for last.


Salaam... Brother Deenuknow and others, i just have a few more thoughts about the personality of Dajjal that i think.... like how he would enter our world and how does work...

You know like how Satan works from his throne where he has all the Devils helping him and so the Devils or Shayatin (Devil) Jinns are his Soldiers..... Dajjal's Soldiers are Gog and Magog.... so just how Satan works from his Throne , Dajjal works from his "Island" which Tamim Dari Saw him on , when their Ship got Lost and rest of the Story you already know.... Gog and Magog's destruction around the World and their Corruption (like drugs, prostitution, economic melt down etc) will make things easy for Dajjal to rule the World, because he would already be having much Strength already given by Allah (swt)... and so he would pose as THE ONLY WAY out for people of the World out of all this Fasad (corruption) which people would be happily to accept , well most of them would around the World.... so making easy for his claim of Being a Real Messiah...

One thing i think that Allah (swt) did not only make Tamim Dari experience meeting with Dajjal, not only to Warn the Ummah (nation) of Muhammad (saw) but also to show his appearance, of how he would look or what appearance can we expect Dajjal to have once he walks in to Our Dimension and poses as a Modern Demonic Human Ruler... the event in which Tamim Dari experienced meeting with Dajjal, he said that he was built and Strong and young and curly hair and etc etc. So that also helps us , may be not much but does a little in identifying Dajjal....

About Dajjal , you know many think what is he ? Is he a Jinn or A "Fallen" Angel which is totally incorrect , as Brother SubhanAllah said, Angels cannot disobey Allah , or is he some kind of Human Being ? Sheikh Imran has always called Dajjal a "Being".... well what Species is he then ? Human or Jinn , actually ? we don't know.... it is not said any where in any Historical records that he is a Human or a Devil Jinn or any of such. Muhammad (saw) also did not call him a Human or Jinn, other than that he would rule over Humans as a Human leader, no doubt about that, but what is he Actually ?
After hearing Sheikh Imran calling him a "being" i think that he is such being who is Definitely not a Human , actually and not a Jinn either. But he can walk in to our Dimension like Jinns ? Yes , he can because he will rule the world as a Human. So Jinns can walk in to our Dimension by transforming themselves as Humans or Animals or Snakes etc. But how will Dajjal walk in to our Dimension of Humans.... the only answer that i have got to that is in Free Masonic Elite Circle and Illuminati.... theres a Hadith which i don't know how authentic it is, but it seems very authentic because it says.... "A Group of People will come before Dajjal who will pave the way for him".

So i think that Dajjal's Soldiers are working to make way for him , Gog and Magog and amongst them, the Elite Circle , the Illuminati will make him enter in to this World by Sexual Magical Ritual, a great one , which will make him enter in to our dimension and be given birth as a Child to Jewish parents. Before his birth and coming in to this world, the time of his life on earth A day like a Year, A Day like a Month and etc... may be is basically to explain how a Momin (believer) can understand, by viewing critically the World Events, how will his power get concentrated in and around the Holy Land (Israel and Middle East)... this is what i think....


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Asalamalaikum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu brother syed_z,

This has been very enlightening. I agree with you on every point and i agree with you on the points that we do not know. But the points we do know are, alhamdullilah enough to save our skinns.

JazakAllah khair for the time and effort you took in making us understand.

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First, I totally agree, it's high time we delve even deeper to know about the greatest fitnah befallen mankind embodied in this single individual known as Dajjal. We;ve talked much about the Dajjalic system, but not many are able talk discuss the Dajjal as the individual person.

This was post in the other thread: Lucifer (Ibliss) Throne; but this is not about the Iblees throne but about Dajjal's island where he used to grow up in his early childhood and also the island where he was chained.

The hadith about the 40 days of dajjal, commences after his release from that Island, where the Dajjal personally told Tamim Al-Dari that he will soon be released into the world.

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Guys, I was rereading, digesting and translating text Muhammad Isa Dawud's work titled "Al-Khuyut al-Khafiyyah baina al-Masikh ad-Dajjal wa asrar Muthallath Bermuda wa al-Atbaq at-Tairah".....getting points regarding Dajjal's meeting with Iblees.....it's coming bro asyraf...Insha Allah ;)

In the process, I stumbled upon other key pieces of information regarding the Dajjal - His Island/Lair where he grew up, and where he was chained during the lifetime of Prophet Muhammad sollallahu alaihi wasallam...!

You see, I consider myself a student of Maulana Shaykh Imran, however there are a few things that I do not agree - Dajjal's Island location, where Sheikh Imran suspected that Island to be Britain....

That same hadith of Tamim Al-Dari, Rasulullah indicated with his hand 3 times that Dajjal is in the East, the East, the East.....hence that Island cannot be Britain.

Then I stumbled upon Muhammad Isa Dawud's book, where he said he was able to gain information from European Aristocrats who uncovered long lost pre and post Sayyidina Muhammad period manuscripts written in its original language...he also met with an old man from Yemen who have kept long lost forgotten manuscripts with Narrations of Sayydina Muhammad of some terrifying events in the future.....he also came upon Aramaic manuscripts in Palestine which apparently was a dictation from the Prophet Ibrahim & Sayyidina Isa alaihuma salam mentioning about the fitnah of dajjal....

He also was surprised when a European aristocrat came up to him and said "Islam have to shoulder the big and heavy responsibility to save the entire world from the evils of Dajjal of the highest calibre!"


Ok let's get back with the Dajjal's Island location; the Island is South of Yemen somewhere in the Indian Ocean where there are a group of Islands. Dajjal's island seems far away as if breaking away from these other islands. The island is blessed with flora and fauna, with lush tropical vegetation that bore fruits, it also receives ample rain throughout the year (which means Dajjal's provision while he was there was sufficient).

While I was reading through this something just hit me, wham! Wait a minute, I know this place and we've all probably seen it in the Transformers 2 movie too......the place is, DIEGO GARCIA!

How do you explain in the middle of nowhere, you have this immense Naval and Air Base that houses the US strategic bombers? we're talking about B-52s, Rockwell B1Bs and B2 Stealth Bombers....

Look at wikipedia for further info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diego_Garcia

Hmm, figures, the way they got the island is very curious....it was secretly leased to the United Kingdom and detached from Mauritius with the intention of expelling its entire population (which they did) and establishing a military base. Meaning the only people there are military people - UK and US servicemen.

Muhammad Isa Dawud said at the times that Dajjal is free to roam the Earth (after Rasulullah's demise), in between he keeps returning to this Island....surely this place is special to him.

Sheikh Imran was right in a way in that Island is Britain, only thing is it's not the European Britain it is the British Indian Ocean Territory which control these islands.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_In ... erritories

If you look at its strategic location, it provides the perfect location with and unobstructed view to monitor and check all major Muslim nations in the world.....

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What do you guys think? I will add more info along the way....it seems there are various artifacts, stone engravings, signs that can prove the presence of Dajjal in his early life....there's no way to find out unless you are UK/US military people, hmm figures...


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Wow, Im sincerely impressed... very good work.. now I understand why Britain never gave Diego Garcia to Mauritius, and I think that there is something very fishy behind the Independence of Mauritius as such..
Perhaps, there was a conspiracy behind, whereby the Elite gave independence to Mauritius, in order to get the Island Of Diego Garcia, in a most unsuspecting fashion.. In a way, Mauritius, previously under British regime, is connected to Diego Garcia, and Dajjal...
Anyways, I shall continue the research. Superb thread..


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What do you guys think? I will add more info along the way....it seems there are various artifacts, stone engravings, signs that can prove the presence of Dajjal in his early life....there's no way to find out unless you are UK/US military people, hmm figures...


What i think? I think this is mind boggling information.
JazakAllah khayr, keep posting here bro.

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Tony wrote:
Question?

What, if any, is the relationship between the Dajjal and Satan?


They both operate from the darkside. But we need them both to learn righteousness. The story behind satan was explained in the Qur'an. Arrogance and racism. Dajjal, the final test and the most difficult since every prophet from Adam till Muhammad peace and blessing upon them warned us about. I see it like Satan (iblis) being the chief of the Jinns and Dajjal being both in our dimension of time and in the dimension of the Jinn, like some kind of link between the 2. We should prepare for a tsnumi of Dajjal's unseen force. How can we close those doors. By building ourselves spiritually. The Human race is strong. But we are influenced by the satanic forces and became paralized. So again, i believe Satan is the chief of evil but he is not dajjal. But certainly he saved his best for last.

Allah knows best.



Thanks for the reply TheDeenUknow :)


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TheDeenUknow wrote:
Tony wrote:
Question?

What, if any, is the relationship between the Dajjal and Satan?


They both operate from the darkside. But we need them both to learn righteousness. The story behind satan was explained in the Qur'an. Arrogance and racism. Dajjal, the final test and the most difficult since every prophet from Adam till Muhammad peace and blessing upon them warned us about. I see it like Satan (iblis) being the chief of the Jinns and Dajjal being both in our dimension of time and in the dimension of the Jinn, like some kind of link between the 2. We should prepare for a tsnumi of Dajjal's unseen force. How can we close those doors. By building ourselves spiritually. The Human race is strong. But we are influenced by the satanic forces and became paralized. So again, i believe Satan is the chief of evil but he is not dajjal. But certainly he saved his best for last.

Allah knows best.


Thanks for the reply TheDeenUknow :)


Thank you for the questions brother Tony ;)
If you have information about the Antichrist's origin from a christian perspective please share it here bro.

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Thank you for the questions brother Tony ;)
If you have information about the Antichrist's origin from a christian perspective please share it here bro.


The Christians beleive the anti-christ will rule from Jerusalem. The Temple will be rebuilt on the Temple site and Satan will give him great power.

This teaching comes from the Apostle Paul in the New Testament.




2 Thessilonians Chapter 2 verse 1

Now concerning the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ and our assembling to meet him, we beg you, brethren,


2Th 2:2 not to be quickly shaken in mind or excited, either by spirit or by word, or by letter purporting to be from us, to the effect that the day of the Lord has come.


2Th 2:3 Let no one deceive you in any way; for that day will not come, unless the rebellion comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of perdition,


2Th 2:4 who opposes and exalts himself against every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, proclaiming himself to be God.


2Th 2:5 Do you not remember that when I was still with you I told you this?


2Th 2:6 And you know what is restraining him now so that he may be revealed in his time.


2Th 2:7 For the mystery of lawlessness is already at work; only he who now restrains it will do so until he is out of the way.


2Th 2:8 And then the lawless one will be revealed, and the Lord Jesus will slay him with the breath of his mouth and destroy him by his appearing and his coming.


2Th 2:9 The coming of the lawless one by the activity of Satan will be with all power and with pretended signs and wonders,


2Th 2:10 and with all wicked deception for those who are to perish, because they refused to love the truth and so be saved.


2Th 2:11 Therefore God sends upon them a strong delusion, to make them believe what is false,


2Th 2:12 so that all may be condemned who did not believe the truth but had pleasure in unrighteousness.


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Thanks brother Tony,

Brother asralfarhi,

I came across this hadith,

Narrated Fatimah, daughter of Qays: The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) once delayed the congregational night prayer. He came out and said: The talk of Tamim ad-Dari detained me. He transmitted it to me from a man who was on of of the islands of the sea. All of a sudden he found a woman who was trailing her hair. He asked: Who are you? She said: I am the Jassasah. Go to that castle. So I came to it and found a man who was trailing his hair, chained in iron collars, and leaping between Heaven and Earth. I asked: Who are you? He replied: I am the Dajjal (Antichrist). Has the Prophet of the unlettered people come forth now? I replied: Yes. He said: Have they obeyed him or disobeyed him? I said: No, they have obeyed him. He said: That is better for them.

The hadith is from Sunan Abu-Dawud, book 37 hadith 4311.

I thought i heard sheikh Imran hosein mentioning that they found a hairy creature Jassasah?

I found another hadith, the one sheikh Imran hosein mentioned.

The Hadith of Fatima


'Amir Ibn Sharahil Sha'bi Sha'b Hamdan reported that he asked Fatima bint Qays, the sister of Dahhak Ibn Qays, who was one of the first Muhajirat, "Tell me a Hadith which you heard directly from the Prophet with no narrator in between." She said, "I can tell you if you like." He said, 'Yes, please tell me," she said, "I married Ibn al-Mughirah, who was one of the best of the youth of Quraysh in those days. But he fell in the first Jihad on the side of the Prophet. "When I became a widow, 'Abd al-Rahman Ibn 'Awf, one of the companions of the Prophet sent me a proposal of marriage. The Prophet also sent me a proposal of marriage on behalf of his freedman Usamah Ibn Zayd. I had been told that the Prophet had said, 'He who loves me should also love Usamah.' When the Prophet spoke to me, I said, 'It is up to you: marry me to whomever you wish.' "The Prophet said, 'Go and stay with Umm Sharik.' Umm Sharik was a rich Ansari (Muslim originally from Madina) woman, who spent much in the way of Allah and entertained many guests. I said, 'I will do as you wish.' Then he said, 'Don't go. Umm Sharik has many guests, and I would not like it if your head or leg were to become uncovered accidentally and people saw something you would not wish them to see. It is better if you go and stay with your cousin 'Abdullah Ibn 'Amr Ibn Umm Maktum' ('Abdullah was of the Banu Fihr of Quraysh, the same tribe as that to which Fatima belonged).

"So I went to stay with him, and when I had completed my 'Iddah (period of waiting), I heard the Prophet's announcer calling for congregational prayer. I went out to the mosque, and prayed behind the Prophet. I was in the women's row, which was at the back of the congregation. When the Prophet had finished his prayer, he sat on the pulpit, smiling, and said, 'Everyone should stay in his place.' Then he said, 'Do you know why I had asked you to assemble?' The people said, 'Allah and His Messenger know best.' "He said, 'By Allah, I have not gathered you here to give you an exhortation or a warning. I have kept you here because Tamim al-Dari, a Christian man who has come and embraced Islam, told me something which agrees with that which I have told you about the Dajjal. He told me that he had sailed in a ship with 30 men from Banu Lakhm and Banu Judham. The waves had tossed them about for a month, then they were brought near to an island, at the time of sunset. They landed on the island, and were met by a beast who was so hairy that they could not tell its front from its back.
They said, "Woe to you! What are you?" It said, "I am al-Jassasah." They said, "What is al-Jassasah?" It said, "O people, go to this man in the monastery, for he is very eager to know about you." Tamim said that when it named a person to us, we were afraid lest it be a devil." Tamim said, 'We quickly went to the monastery. There we found a huge man with his hands tied up to his neck and with iron shackles between his legs up to the ankles. We said, "Woe to you, who are you?" He said, "You will soon know about me. Tell me who you are."
We said, "We are people from Arabia. We sailed in a ship, but the waves have been tossing us about for a month, and they brought us to your island, where we met a beast who was so hairy that we could not tell its front from its back. We said to it, "Woe to you! What are you? and it said , "I am al-Jassasah." We asked, "What is al-Jassasah?" and it told us, "Go to this man in the monastery, for he is very eager to know about you." So we came to you quickly, fearing that it might be a devil.'
"The man said, "Tell me about the date-palms of Baysan.' We said, 'What do you want to know about them?" He said, 'I want to know whether these trees bear fruit or not.' We said, 'Yes.' He said, 'Soon they will not bear fruit.' Then he said, "Tell me about the lake of al-Tabariyyah [Tiberias, in Palestine].' We said, 'What do you want to know about it?" He asked, 'Is there water in it?' We said, 'There is plenty of water in it.' He said, 'Soon it will become dry.' Then he said, 'Tell me about the spring of Zughar.' We said, 'What do you want to know about it?' He said, 'Is there water in it, and does it irrigate the land?" We said, 'Yes, there is plenty of water in it, and the people use it to irrigate the land.' "Then he said, "Tell me about the unlettered Prophet ' what has he done?' We said, 'He has left Makkah and settled in Yathrib.' He asked, 'Do the Arabs fight against him?' We said, 'Yes.' He said, 'How does he deal with them?' So we told him that the Prophet had overcome the Arabs around him and that they had followed him. He asked, 'Has it really happened?' We said, 'Yes.' He said, 'It is better for them if they follow him. Now I will tell you about myself. I am the Dajjal. I will soon be permitted to leave this place: I will emerge and travel about the earth. In 40 nights I will pass through every town, except Makkah and Madina, for these have been forbidden to me. Every time I try to enter either of them, I will be met by an angel bearing an unsheathed sword, who will prevent me from entering. There will be angels guarding them at every passage leading to them.'
Fatima said, "The Prophet striking the pulpit with his staff, said: 'This is Tayyibah, this is Tayyibah, this is Tayyibah, [ie Madina]. Have I not told you something like this?' The people said, 'Yes.' He said, 'I liked the account given to me by Tamim because it agrees with that which I have told you about the Dajjal, and about Makkah and Madina. Indeed he is in the Syrian sea or the Yemen sea. No, on the contrary, he is in the East, he is in the East, he is in the East' and he pointed towards the East. Fatima said: I memorised this from the Prophet." (Muslim).

Is Jassasah Dajjal's female spy? Or is one of the hadith(less) reliable?This is new for me. Allah knows best.

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I am more familiar with the second long hadith which Sheikh Imran normally uses in his speeches about the Dajjal.....actually, if the first Hadith is also a sound hadith it fits and backs up each other....

The word Jassasah should have been self explanatory from the linguist point of view, since it is in Muannath form (female)....rarely have we thought the beast Jassasah is a FEMALE beast, but this Hadith confirms that fact.....great find bro!

p/s: Jassasah was the beast that was tasked to look after Dajjal when he was still a baby until his maturity after being carried away by the Archangel Jibraeel from a town that has been destroyed by Allah swt.....only a female beast would have an innate motherly caring traits. Perfect! Pieces of the puzzle falling into place...heh?

The second Hadith also supports the other hadith regarding the release of Dajjal in 40 days in coded form - a day like a month, a day like a year, a day like week and the remainder like our days. If we were to interpolate and interpret this known fact, it would be clear that Dajjal exists before Sayyidina Muhammad sollalahu alaihi wasallam and has been released into the world ever since (after the death of the final prophet), to perpetrate fitnah among mankind and to scheme his grand vision of one day proclaiming to be God.....these type of plan/schemes cannot take place within a normal human lifetime.


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"Indeed he is in the Syrian sea or the Yemen sea. No, on the contrary, he is in the East, he is in the East, he is in the East' and he pointed towards the East. Fatima said: I memorised this from the Prophet." (Muslim).

Final proof that Dajjal's island is in the Yemeni sea....

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Note the island is an atoll which looks like a snake from above.


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Tony wrote:
TheDeenUknow wrote:
Tony wrote:
Question?

What, if any, is the relationship between the Dajjal and Satan?


They both operate from the darkside. But we need them both to learn righteousness. The story behind satan was explained in the Qur'an. Arrogance and racism. Dajjal, the final test and the most difficult since every prophet from Adam till Muhammad peace and blessing upon them warned us about. I see it like Satan (iblis) being the chief of the Jinns and Dajjal being both in our dimension of time and in the dimension of the Jinn, like some kind of link between the 2. We should prepare for a tsnumi of Dajjal's unseen force. How can we close those doors. By building ourselves spiritually. The Human race is strong. But we are influenced by the satanic forces and became paralized. So again, i believe Satan is the chief of evil but he is not dajjal. But certainly he saved his best for last.

Allah knows best.



Thanks for the reply TheDeenUknow :)


I was about to disclose this information regarding an actual meeting that took place in Iblees (Satan) throne in the Bermudas with the Dajjal on the other thread: Lucifer (Ibliss) throne. The Jinn (Satan) a.k.a ALIENS/ETs - Human (Dajjal) unholy alliance was forged long before there was a United States, period!

I'm jumping all over the place. I need a bit more time on this...juggling life, work, family and reality....hehe


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MashAllah Brother Asral, great info man..... thanks for sharing all of that....

So Diego Garcia could be one of those islands ? But yemeni sea and indian ocean is different right ? I mean when Muhammad (saw) said east he mean't Yemen or Indian side ?


Also could you please provide us with more information on what did Muhammad Isa Ibrahim said about those ancient manuscripts found with sayings of Isa (a.s) and Ibrahim (a.s) and Muhammad (saw) , do you have any info on those sayings ?? I would love to know what they say .....

JazakAllah for everything...


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