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Salaam alaikum/ peace be upon you,

Bismillah Rahman Raheem (In the name of God, the Most Beneficial, the Most Meciful)

On behalf of the staff at the Wake Up Project, I would like to apologize for not enforcing rule 8 as strongly as we should:

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8. On WakeupProject.com our goal is to unite and not to divide, thus any religious intolerance towards other members, sects, groups will not be tolerated. Please keep in mind that being positive or tolerant towards others weighs a lot heavier than being negative or intolerant. Subjects that will lead to any form of debate like Shia Vs. Sunni, Muslims Vs. Christians are not allowed. These topics lead to more harm than good, and only raise arguments that could potentially lead to a Strife, we here at the WUP try to avoid at all costs.


As a result of our negligence, the old "Common Ground" thread was filled with posts/threads dedicated to proving Christianity in particular wrong. That was not the intention of the founders when the site was created, and is not the position of the Wake Up Project now or in the future.

In order to correct this, we have opened a new "Common Ground" section, which will be moderated and rules strictly enforced.

Once again, my deepest apologies if any of you were hurt, offended, embarrassed, mocked, or otherwise mistreated by members here. If such a problem occurs, be sure to report (!) the posts in question.

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I sometimes post some radical views by some ridiculously bluenosed clerics purely for entertainment purposes only.

I also had no control over the discussions which duly ensued.

> My apologies too.

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Sometimes I'm just a jackass. No actual excuse for it though. I don't think I have wronged someone non Muslim, but sorry if I did.

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Asalam-0-Aleakum,
hm....This is Discipline. Fallow Rules...This is great that u guys said apologize...But with my pardon, its my own observation...That we muslimes are really stupid and innocent.... We speak from the bottom of our heart...We don't hide or make planning against other religion or communities...like they do... Here in WUP... There are many Missionary People who came up with fake id and make Mischief....Make fun of Islaam...I think before we say some thing bad...and again we say apology...we should make strict rules...About ISLAMIC Views and Belief....So who ever try to Abuse our values....without saying any bad word...he or she will be get out..to the hell...

Its Ur greatness that you accepted your mistakes and apologize...But there should be some strict rules....for them.

Pardon, if my any word hurt, anyone feeling....Asalam-0-Alekum

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Pyrrhic wrote:
Asalam-0-Aleakum,
hm....This is Discipline. Fallow Rules...This is great that u guys said apologize...But with my pardon, its my own observation...That we muslimes are really stupid and innocent.... We speak from the bottom of our heart...We don't hide or make planning against other religion or communities...like they do... Here in WUP... There are many Missionary People who came up with fake id and make Mischief....Make fun of Islaam...I think before we say some thing bad...and again we say apology...we should make strict rules...About ISLAMIC Views and Belief....So who ever try to Abuse our values....without saying any bad word...he or she will be get out..to the hell...

Its Ur greatness that you accepted your mistakes and apologize...But there should be some strict rules....for them.

Pardon, if my any word hurt, anyone feeling....Asalam-0-Alekum


The same rules for us apply to them. They are not allowed to create Christianity VS Islam topics either.

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Greetings, I have been off doing lots of research and come back, ok so i missed this but....
I have just realised something, its not about who is right or wrong.
There is a group that conspires to deceive us and they have been doing a pretty good job of this so far.
Therefore is is impossible to know 100% the exact truth on ANYTHING, except for 1 truth and that is ALLAH/GOD/THE CREATOR.
I heard someone say the other day, "Its not what you put into your mouth its what comes out of it that matters"
And I dont think its important to believe in Jesus being sacrificed on a cross (this may be a lie) or to believe in Mohammed or any other prophet, as we were all sent different ones.
AS LONG AS WE BELIEVE IN THE ONE GOD AND THAT HE HAS A PLAN
Of this I am sure and one day soon I will see all of you, my brothers, back in heaven.
WE HAVE BEEN SEPARATED FOR FAR TOO LONG.
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Brother, gr3g0s. well said,
But there is a truth (believe it or not, its your choice), that The real Christians (the follower of Hazrat Essa Elah salam) are few in numbers. Mostly are the servant of Antichrist. They are creating deception (pretended to be Christians and then create hate among Christianity). They also love to create hate and crusade between Muslims and Christians. Even they successfully divided Christians in different groups. The servant of Antichrist hate Muslims same as Christians and same as with Jews. In the WUP forum, Those fake Christians (the Follower of Antichrist) should be banned. Here we are calling for the wake up call. Many senior people are there. They should understand....

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How are most christians servants of the antichrist? One could say that about any group couldnt they?


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What religion we were born into. How can we blame each other over this?

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How are most christians servants of the antichrist? One could say that about any group couldnt they?

Hm...Did'nt say that christians --->Antichrist servents....I am saying that Antichrist followers pretend to be christians. or even muslime. They can appear as any one. They are mix in us. (Make mischeif between Us) This Forum is important. The arrival, Bushwack, and all other senior represent this forum. So we must be careful. I am not against the apology by WUP staff. I am just saying that Christian community Should also expose those fake faces...Who are creating Mischeif and hate between Muslimes and christians. Pardon, if my any word hurt any one's feeling. Peace and blessing

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So I go away for a weekend and come back to this? MashaAllah.

Understand the reality of the human being and get away from this divisive religious labeling. Yes a portion of labeling is a part of the truth but it is not complete. The enemy of us all is not contained in any of the labels yet may use ALL labels as a means against humanity. Look deep within yourself to see beyond the illusionary pictures. We are a better people than this. Very Well said Pyrrhic.

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Sorry but I disagree with part of what he said.

Saying that the (fake) Christians on wup is derogatory and inflammatory towards them. I thought this was a mutli-faith board? Man, you gotta realise one thing here - we got Sunni and Shia members here... what if the Sunnis started calling the Shias "fake Muslims" ??? Should the Shias get banned too?

I'm surprised at this response by Pyrhhic. This is supposed to be the common ground section, his post is better of in the Uncommon ground section. Why create more animosity?

He has a point about shaytaan not caring which religion he attacks, but mute point considering that Pyrhicc already labelled more than half the Christians here as devil worshippers... kinda makes me think of double standards.

Bottom line is this, live and let live. If you find that a member, be it Christian, Muslim, Jew, Pagan, Agnostic or Atheist - is stepping out of the boundaries of rules set, you can always report them to a mod. But to classify an entire faith system as satanic is an unjustified bias. The Christians fall under the banner of Ahlul Kitaab - please understand that.

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Scimitar,

If this is what he meant I don't agree but the last post seems like a clarification. He is saying dajjal followers are posing as christians.....not that christians are DAJJAL followers.

When I first read his post I took it like you are Scimitar. Got highly frustrated. If I am mistaken in my final understanding of his words I will edit and apologize for my misunderstanding. I thought he was echoing the sentiments I put up after his last post. As I keep rereading his post as I type....I looked over the banning of dajjal followers on this board. I am not aware of "fake" christians. Thank you for your words Scimitar. You are fully correct. I ask forgiveness for those who have been offended.

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No need to aplogise bro ManOfReal. Honestly...

I have found that there are many Muslims here on this site who attack the Christian members here. It's not fair, and it's not Islamic. We debate to find that which is similiar between us, and refrain from discussing that which separates us - until, we form some kind of understanding between faith groups.

As for "spies". Sure, they exist... and it's clear and simple to see who they are by the topics they post in and the content they post. It's very easy to spot if you know how. However, if they aren't breaking the rules - then really, there's nothing much that can be done. Except warn the regulars via PM. Ofcourse, we can take drastic action and ban them... but what if? what if their questions were genuine to begin with? And they were only playing advocate in order to get answers that will curb their own doubts? Kinda makes you think if we really can suss out anyone, doesn't it?

The best thing is to give these suspected members some time. If their conduct doesn't improve? Then it's time for drastic action and infractions can be served.

That is all.

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Scimitar wrote:
The best thing is to give these suspected members some time. If their conduct doesn't improve?


That's my usual methodology ....i'm sure people , who are familiar with me, know how much I love the PM system. lol.

This thread is sufficient in its apology and a testament to our learning as we walk.

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