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salam aleikum everyone. I need some assistance in determining if this NEW island fits the desciption given by the prophet alayhi salam in this lengthy hadith (shortened for this post)

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'Do you know why I had asked you to assemble?' The people said, 'Allah and His Messenger know best.' "He said, 'By Allah, I have not gathered you here to give you an exhortation or a warning. I have kept you here because Tamim al-Dari, a Christian man who has come and embraced Islam, told me something which agrees with that which I have told you about the Dajjal. He told me that he had sailed in a ship with 30 men from Banu Lakhm and Banu Judham. The waves had tossed them about for a month, then they were brought near to an island, at the time of sunset. They landed on the island, and were met by a beast who was so hairy that they could not tell its front from its back.


And now.. the island which peaked my attention:

New island forming in Red Sea
A new island is being created by an underwater volcano in the Red Sea, between Eritrea and Yemen. Jeff Glor reports

http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id= ... &tag=strip


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A new island is forming in the Red Sea in the Zubair archipelago resulting from a volcanic activity as lava is cooled by the surrounding seawater and solidifies.

The underwater volcano behind the formation is located on the Red Sea Rift, where the African and Arabian tectonic plates are slowly pulling apart,” New Scientist reported.

On 19 December, Yemeni fishermen first spotted lava spewing 30 metres into the air, which was later confirmed by satellite observations.

NASA’s Moderate Resolution Imaging Spectroradiometer aboard its Terra and Aqua satellites and NASA’s Advanced Land Imager aboard its Earth Observing One satellite, detected ash plumes.

NASA’s Advanced Land Imager later produced the image.

The Ozone Monitoring Instrument aboard NASA’s Aura satellite also recorded elevated levels of sulphur dioxide in the region.

By 23 December, the lava mass had broken the water’s surface and the new island had begun to take shape.

The island is currently around 500m wide and is still growing


Discuss :ugeek:

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Unread post Re: Dajjal's Island FOUND? (Allahu alim)
The island was already there when Prophet Muhammed(Saw) mentioned that ;)

What you now see on the red sea, is the forming of a very new island (Subhan'Allah) . But the island in the hadith already existed.

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Wa 'alaykum salam wa rahmatullah wabarakatuh, Sis :D

Is the island surfaced just now or it was there for about years ago?

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Wa 'alaykum salam wa rahmatullah wabarakatuh, Sis :D

Is the island surfaced just now or it was there for about years ago?



It is surfaced just now. Same is happening under the Canarean island of hierro.

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Unread post Re: Dajjal's Island FOUND? (Allahu alim)
Robin_B wrote:
The island was already there when Prophet Muhammed(Saw) mentioned that ;)


Yes i considered that of course.

However...
This island has existed since the prophet's (as) time, and yet NO ONE ever found or identified it.
All those thousands of years and not 1 explorer, not 1 map maker.. not even Google Earth and all it's sattelites have given a clear indication of where it may be.

If there were a demonic entity and a hairy beast living on an island somewhere, surely someone would have noticed by now. :lol:

What a perfect way to keep dajjal chained until his time of emergance and rise to power! just imagine.. chained underwater, in BURNING VALCANIC LAVA.

Now of course I could be wrong.. i probably am wrong lol but i just love to ponder the possibilities.

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Didnt sheikh imran hosein, say something about that island, they found dajjal on, being england?

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Unread post Re: Dajjal's Island FOUND? (Allahu alim)
I think the island is Bermuda island in Bermuda Triangle. There is book by Muhammad Isa Daud that describe in detail about it. It is the location of the kingdom of Iblees and also the station of the UFOs.

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Salaams sis JXYZ,
I heard an opinion about this topic somewhere which was a very good opinion and I agreed with it (it made the most sense).

Basically, the man in question Tamim Dari was a Palestinian Arab. He obviously travelled through the Mediterranean sea. However some people didn't know any better and assummed he'd travelled in the Indian ocean. Hence there were 2 views at the time (the island was either in the Mediterranean or Indian ocean).

In response to THIS, Prophet SAW said

Behold he (Dajjal) is in the Syrian sea (Mediterranian) or the yemen sea (Arabian sea). Nay, on the contrary, he As In the east, he is in the east, he is in the east, and he pointed with his hand towards the east.

Prophet SAW said 'he is in the east' 3 times to emphasise a very important point. So people don't get hung up on the detail, wherever he is.....it isn't important. What matters is where he would come from (within the muslim world) and Prophet SAW said 'he is in the East'. Even though we know dajjal would come from 'between syria and iraq' (north) we're warned of the EAST. Some say it refers to Isfahan but even then, the khorosan army is from the east (bit strange in that context).

In connection to this, there are plenty of hadith warning us of the east, referring to the Najd region in Saudi.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hadith_of_Najd

It isn't an accident you get dajjals palace built by the saudi royal family (from riyadh, najd)


The term 'horns of satan' obviously isn't literal. Prophet SAW also used it in this instance


I again said: Prophet of Allah, tell me that which Allah has taught you and which I do not know, tell me about the prayer. He said: Observe the dawn prayer, then stop praying when the sun is rising till it Is fully up, for when it rises it comes up between the horns of satan, and the unbelievers prostrate themselves to it at that time. (Sahih Muslim, Book #004, Hadith #1812)


I can only let my imagination get the better of me here but


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horns of satan probably meant the saudi royal family...and we all know which side they're on.

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Look further east in heartlands of Central Asia (Khurasan), we'll find 'DAJJALOPOLIS' :lol:

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Personally I believe the hadith in a literal sense. An Island.

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you've not really read my post....read it...understand the context of the Hadith...the Island is irrelevant.

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i read your post bro. the east the east the east, i get it. You mean the location of the island is irrelevant, and its more important where the dajjal would rise or come to power from. gotcha.

The thread was addressing the island, and this new island i had heard about in the news. Thanks for the input :)

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I don't want to disagree with you for disagreements sake. It wouldn't be in the Red Sea though. If you're in Palestine, which sea would you travel in? there's only one. Tamim Dari was with 'thirty men of Bani Lakhm and Bani Judham '
Those tribes if you read about them, were from Iraq and Syria/Egypt. It all points to the Mediterranian sea.

they were tossed around in the ocean for a month. for all we know they ended up in the bermuda triangle.

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it cant be bermuda triangle, monastries in bermuda triangle?
The island of Britain sounds right

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if you were being tossed and turned at sea, from the Mediterranean sea....you wouldn't end up in Britain.

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how that sounds right to you, i'll never know.

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molvicorleone wrote:
Basically, the man in question Tamim Dari was a Palestinian Arab. He obviously travelled through the Mediterranean sea. However some people didn't know any better and assummed he'd travelled in the Indian ocean. Hence there were 2 views at the time (the island was either in the Mediterranean or Indian ocean).

In response to THIS, Prophet SAW said

Behold he (Dajjal) is in the Syrian sea (Mediterranian) or the yemen sea (Arabian sea). Nay, on the contrary, he As In the east, he is in the east, he is in the east, and he pointed with his hand towards the east.

Prophet SAW said 'he is in the east' 3 times to emphasise a very important point. So people don't get hung up on the detail, wherever he is.....it isn't important. What matters is where he would come from (within the muslim world) and Prophet SAW said 'he is in the East'. Even though we know dajjal would come from 'between syria and iraq' (north) we're warned of the EAST. Some say it refers to Isfahan but even then, the khorosan army is from the east (bit strange in that context).


So basically Dajjal would come from Najd region in Saudi ? It does make sense now.....


"O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Shaam. O Allaah bestow your blessings on our Yemen." The people said, "O Messenger of Allaah, and our Najd." I think the third time the Prophet, sallallaahu alayhi wa sallam, said, "There (in Najd) will occur earthquakes, trials and tribulations, and from their appears the Horn of Satan.


But What does earthquake, trials, tribulations and horn of satan here mean ? are some of it is in literal sense ?

and If horn of satan could probably be the saudi royal family, But this family originate from Riyadh. :?

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molvicorleone wrote:
if you were being tossed and turned at sea, from the Mediterranean sea....you wouldn't end up in Britain.

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how that sounds right to you, i'll never know.

You actually would end up right at britain. Once you're in the Atlantic Ocean the North Atlantic drift current will take you right upto UK.

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molvicorleone wrote:
if you were being tossed and turned at sea, from the Mediterranean sea....you wouldn't end up in Britain.

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how that sounds right to you, i'll never know.

You actually would end up right at britain. Once you're in the Atlantic Ocean the North Atlantic drift current will take you right upto UK.


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notice in the hadith, no one else was present other than the creature and dajjal.

you really think it'd be on an island that's been inhabited by people for thousands of years? the subject of a number of invasions and has obviously been explored?

You have a personal issue with Britain, that's why you're mentioning it and plus you probably believe in this 'pax briticanica' nonsense from Sheikh Imran Hossein. Considering he has taught that pax britanica represents '1 day like a year' (ie 1000 years) even though britain ruled for 3-4 centuries /MAX.

Plus the hadith in question even tells us to make an estimate for our prayer times in that time which itself proves the 1 day like a year hadith is unique and doesn't just mean '1000 normal years' but literally 1 day, like a YEAR (not 1000 years). The Sahaba even asked 'would 1 days salah equal to 1 years prayer?'.

Besides...the island is not even relevant, but you guys just keep on with your deluded ideas.

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Unread post Re: Dajjal's Island FOUND? (Allahu alim)
^I'm not saying Sheikh Imran Hossein is absolutely right because none of us will truly know the location of that Island.

All I was saying is that it quite possible for a ship caught in turbulent seas in the Mediterranean and into the Atlantic can end up near UK by getting caught in the North Atlantic Current which is a very powerful current that starts around Mexico-Caribbean and goes right across the Atlantic Ocean towards Ireland-UK and further north into the North Sea towards Norway.

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So if a city like Astana aka dajjalopolis , is it halal to blow it up because you think its satanic?

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