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Selamun Aleikoem Muslim brothers/sisters..

Is there a timeline of all of the Prophets; when exactly they lived and what their aims was and where exactly they have fought? And a family tree of the bloodline of our Prophets.. Like it was showed in the Arrivals of our twelf imam's.. It will be much easier to read and see and learn everything of our Prophets.. Thanks.

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Wa Alaikum salam

there is a cd box set by Imam Anwar Awlaki on the prophets in the order they came, really good in getting
a idea on their lives.

its called lives of the prophets ;)


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One very interesting thing about the Quran is that unlike the Bible, it doesn't start from the beginning of the universe and end at the end of the world. The Quran doesn't follow a timeline. For example the Bible begins with Genesis, first God created the heavens and such and in Bible all the prophets are mentioned according to the historical timeline.

In the Quran on the other hand, it doesn't stick to any timeline. It starts off with addressing the hypocrites of Medina and then jumps to the story of Adam (as) and then jumps to the story of Moses (as) and such. Many stories are repeated a few times in the Quran, each time under a different light. Such as the story of Moses and Adam. What this does is firstly make it very difficult to date the world and the timeline of events according to the Quran. The Quran doesn't allow the reader to establish when the world might have had come into existence and what period in history prophet Nuh (as) reigned from and how much was the timeline in years between prophet Moses (as) and prophet Jesus (as) etc. This makes it impossible for historians to refute the Quran on the basis of historical inaccuracies in the timeline of events, like the historians have done with the Bible.

Secondly it shifts the focus of the Quran from a book of historical events to a book of guidance. To a book which teaches you principles of life and existence through the narration of several historical events. It doesn't matter in what order they have appeared in or in what era they reigned in, what matters is the meaning and teachings of these events. The message the Quran is conveying to the people through the narration these events. Its significance as a book of guidance for the present time rather than just a collection folk or fairy tale. This is what makes Quran timeless and relevant in every era.

Just something to think and reflect upon.

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Surely there are more prophets you have never heard of, I am a prophet too, im born and raised in Holland, and ive always spread the message and told the people about the devil's mash influence on the world, i am 21 years old and i have always taught people the ways of absolution, I have arabic background but i don't speak it. The only thing i can do is inform people and bring forth the teachings. All in the will of Allah.

I never knew i was a prophet untill reading the Koran for the first time it confirmed to me that the lucid mind travel into heaven & the informing of the angels were real.

I expanded my consciousness in means of defining reality by this simple fact: Everything is reflective of a will.

Surely i have met the dajjal in person, and have had permission to become his friend and be under his influence, once on my 17th i broke my friendship with him as i had fully defined his will & could not stand it.
Surely they got the free masons fooled, but for them who seek absolution can't be led into his influence.

People don't quite understand that Satan can become an inner influence which can be defined into words & can be preceived as coming from the self, but it is in fact an outter influence.

If anyone have questions, please do. (note, im not a messenger, but gifted)


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you are a prophet?


well ... what do you think will your destination after death be?

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That's difficult to answer, i can't judge myself, or to look forward to something that is not worth knowing as of yet.


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So absolutepower, you basically had a vision when you were young that you went upto the heaven and you met the Angles and such.

Well, although prophethood has been ended with the last prophet, Muhammad (saws). It doesn't mean guidance from Allah has ended. Allah will surely guide people to the right things, some more explicit than others, like probably in your case.

It'ld be quite interesting to know your story. One thing that causes me to believe in your story is that whatever you've said so far is pretty much true and there aren't any hints of deception in your words (for now), which is somewhat reassuring!

Like reality being a reflection of will. I was listening to a lecture by Sk. Hamza yesterday how he was saying the "dunya" is just an illusion. That doesn't mean the world is an illusion because it is not. The mountains, rivers, lakes etc. are very real. They're part of the "aalm". But the "dunya" is our experience of the world. The illusion that all the wealth and worldly pleasures are real and the illusion we'll stay here for ever. Also it can include the Dajjal/Illuminati illusion put in front of our eyes which makes the "dunya" something very pleasurable and desirable while in fact it is just an illusion, it is something that you will never achieve.

I also was doing a philosophy course last year and the focus of the course was on reality and the nature of it. The conclusion on reality I derived from the course was that everything in this world is just apparently or temporarily real. There are no absolute truths in this universe. One of the names of Allah is Al-Haq. Which means the truth. And surely there is only one absolute reality, one absolute truth which is Allah. Rest all is relative and temporary! And I could expand a bit more on your statement there but for now I'll say I fully believe in your statement! Although I'ld like to hear your explanation of it as well...

And also about Satan being an outer influence, this is also very true. He are his minions are djinns and they all influence us externally. They can whisper things in our ears, they can hear what we say and see what we are doing. But they can't hear our thoughts and know what's in our hearts. Because they aren't inside of us.

Still we do have the Nafs inside of us. And one scholar said the Nafs is stronger than 60 devils! The nafs is a very strong force we have within us which we need to fight, curb and contain. So although we need to do an external battle against the Satan, we also need to keep doing an internal battle against our nafs.

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No body can see the angle in its original form!

if he claimed he see the angle in its original form, it is a gift from the shaytan!

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'Absolutepower', you do know that Islam proclaims that Muhammad sallalahu alahi wasalaam is the last of the Messengers and Prophets of Allah, and that anyone claiming to be a prophet after that is a deceiver, a Dajjal. If you were just ignorant of this fact and mistook you having a mission for being a prophethood from Allah, then you should repent and surrender yourself as a slave alone onto God, but if you know, then you aren't a Muslim


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helpme wrote:
lol, wait till aybar come and shut this nonsense up once and for all.

No body can see the angle in its original form!

if he claimed he see the angle in its original form, it is a gift from the shaytan!

Don't be so hasty in jumping to conclusions.

From what I make out of it, the brother had a vision of angels and such who spoke to him. He never said he saw the angels in their original form. Throughout history many people have had some visions, mostly in dreams where they have been met by angels who taught them something. There are also many recorded incidences in the past where people have seen the devil in person.

One famous story is of Imam Junaid (i think) who once wished to meet Iblees. Loosely narrating, the next day a man came to his home. He was the most frightening looking person Imam Junaid had ever seen and he felt a certain terror in his heart upon seeing the person. Imam Junaid asked him who he was. He replied he was Iblees and he had come to meet him because he had wished to see him. Imam Junaid was a bit horrified but then went on to ask him "why did you not bow down before Adam when Allah commanded you to". Iblees said "How could I bow down in front of anyone except Allah!". This took back Imam Junaid a bit thinking about how devoted Iblees was towards his worship of Allah. Then it struck him that Iblees was only fooling him! He said "If you really were that devotional to Allah, you wouldn't think twice before following any command Allah ordered you to perform". He told Iblees to get away, reflecting on how he was almost fooled by him! And Iblees left.

Anyway, just a story to tell ye about how a person can infact see the devil in this world and have a conversation with him.

We need to judge the brother with what he's saying/teachings and so far I don't see anything heretical in what he's said. You had the thread on jinns in the other form where the CondorShaman person spoke all sorts of stuff most of which was of a very heretical nature and yet no one really attacked that person.

This brother on the other hand although making some claims is still speaking true things. He hasn't saying anything that goes against Islam so far.

So I'm not going to jump to conclusions and start judging the brother straight away without hearing more from him.

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Aybar wrote:
'Absolutepower', you do know that Islam proclaims that Muhammad sallalahu alahi wasalaam is the last of the Messengers and Prophets of Allah, and that anyone claiming to be a prophet after that is a deceiver, a Dajjal. If you were just ignorant of this fact and mistook you having a mission for being a prophethood from Allah, then you should repent and surrender yourself as a slave alone onto God, but if you know, then you aren't a Muslim

I think the brother is a bit confused and he has mistaken himself as being a prophet. But I wouldn't call him a non-believer just yet.

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Do not allow your heart to take pleasure with praises of people,
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I find myself having to clarify a lot recently- I said 'if', meaning if he is shown the truth and carries on calling himself a prophet, then he isn't a Muslim


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Everyone has a certain personality on how to deal with issues they're confronted with.
Picture this,

The time of the Prophet(pbuh), Omar(ra), standing next to him, then walks in Absolutepower, and says, "I am to a prophet of God, and saw such and such."

Omar(ra), "let me cut off his head, O messenger of Allah".


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Aybar wrote:
I find myself having to clarify a lot recently- I said 'if', meaning if he is shown the truth and carries on calling himself a prophet, then he isn't a Muslim

Sorry. I take my words back.

Just trying to say lets give the brother some time to clarify himself. As far as I've seen he hasn't said anything heretical or against Islamic teachings yet...

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Granted bro tracingspirals, perhaps Absolutepower doesn't know that these matters of our deen/religion, is not a joking or casual matter, and if you're going to claim such and such about Allah(swt), or Islam, then you better know exactly what you're claiming, otherwise Muslims with eyes such as :o , will start staring at you, and rather quickly.


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Bushwack wrote:
Granted bro tracingspirals, perhaps Absolutepower doesn't know that these matters of our deen/religion, is not a joking or casual matter, and if you're going to claim such and such about Allah(swt), or Islam, then you better know exactly what you're claiming, otherwise Muslims with eyes such as :o , will start staring at you, and rather quickly.

That is very true. This is sort of how most fitnas in Islam start off. Someone claims divinity and prophethood, people start believing and following him and there's a whole new sect of Islam formed!!

But I feel bro Absolutepower is quite young and maybe a bit confused after the weird experiences he's had. And he really could be gifted for all we know (and might have had ended up confusing his gift with prophethood). Well, ultimately I don't want to judge him until I hear his full story. Bro deserves a fair trial! :)

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Ah, and that's how Abu Bakr(ra) would have dealt with the matter!

Subhanallah.

Words used to mean so much back in the day, and people didn't just say things, then had to explain themselves, words had consequences. Life has consequences.

Today, it's a little different, we're in an anonymous setting, people just throw words around, and could actually mean other things by them, so we can't take everything in the literal sense, till we give people a chance to explain themselves.

So perhaps you're right bro tracing, but i'm leaning more towards bro Ayber's conclusions!

And Allah(swt) knows best! :D


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True the chances that bro Absolutepower is a deception agent are quite high. Especially because its an anonymous form and anyone can come here and babble any crap they want.

What's making me have a little sympathy towards Absolutepower is that despite his big claims his overall message is good. He hasn't really said anything new or un-Islamic. Like say that CondorShaman person (sorry to mention him/her again). Like most of what that person said was very very un Islamic and almost heretical. But people where far more sympathising and accepting to listen to him. Where as bro Absolutepower has despite making claims, didn't really say anything wrong or against Islam.

He's young and probably confused. If someone can help him clear his confusion and set him on the right path (if he already isn't on it), he can be another very helpful brother in Islam!

What I mean is lets not attack him, be a bit more patient and listen to his story first. See if we can help him clear his confusion. Maybe he's just got his words mixed up. We really can't say at this point.

In the meantime lets just be nice to him and let him open up a bit more. Lets not judge him until we know for sure he's an impostor or spreading disinformation.

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The concept of prophet is missunderstood by many.
I'm sure i mean it in a way different way then understood by some

I don't seek credit but to enlighten other's and maybe i should watch what i say more carefully.

Thanks, brothers & sisters.


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Bushwack wrote:
Everyone has a certain personality on how to deal with issues they're confronted with.
Picture this,

The time of the Prophet(pbuh), Omar(ra), standing next to him, then walks in Absolutepower, and says, "I am to a prophet of God, and saw such and such."

Omar(ra), "let me cut off his head, O messenger of Allah".


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Ka-Ching. head rolls... that's all folks. Moral of the story? ... Nyehs!!!

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