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My view is that the Isrealis (and the West in general) would prefer Assad, better the devil you know. They feared that the replacement would be a sunni islamic orientated government. This is why Isreal was silent for a long time until recently where some Isreali voices have made positive noises about the possibility of Assad falling. They realise Assad can't survive and are adjusting to reality. Damage limitation tactic to pretend they were rooting for Assad's overthrow.

Isreal (and the West) will be quietly pleased with the current scenario with Syria becoming weaker by the day, with or without Assad's fall.

Why do I say Assad will fall? Well economically the regime is in big trouble. Tourism is dead, which was worth $8 billion in 2010, 12% of the economy. Hotels are empty and foreign revenue stream is limited. Another tourist season is being lost as we speak. The regime claimed before the uprising it has $18 billion of foreign reserves. It is said it is eating thru half a billion dollars per month from these reserves. The french foreign minister recently estimated that the regime had eaten up half of its reserves. Recently, according to a report, the regime has been caught unsuccessfully trying to sell it's gold reserves at a lower than market rate in Dubai. This reveals it is running out of money. The syrian pound reached 100 per dollar earlier this year, half it's original value, until the central bank pumped some dollars in to stabalise it.

Oil was another important source of revenue which is said to have collapsed. It was predicted to account for 25.1% of state revenue in 2010. Iran has been helping sell syrian oil. many people were no longer paying taxes or gas/elecctricity bills.

How long can Iran keep financially helping the regime or help sell syrian oil when it has it's own financial problems with sanctions and difficulty in selling oil. A recent report claimed Iranian tankers were parked up in the persian gulf and used to store oil it couldn't sell.

The syrian people regard those who supported the regimes slaughter of the people; Russia, Iran and Hezbolla as enemies. A future Syria will very likely be anti-Russia, Iran and Hezbollah.


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State Tv wrote:
My view is that the Isrealis (and the West in general) would prefer Assad, better the devil you know. They feared that the replacement would be a sunni islamic orientated government. This is why Isreal was silent for a long time until recently where some Isreali voices have made positive noises about the possibility of Assad falling. They realise Assad can't survive and are adjusting to reality. Damage limitation tactic to pretend they were rooting for Assad's overthrow.

Isreal (and the West) will be quietly pleased with the current scenario with Syria becoming weaker by the day, with or without Assad's fall.

Why do I say Assad will fall? Well economically the regime is in big trouble. Tourism is dead, which was worth $8 billion in 2010, 12% of the economy. Hotels are empty and foreign revenue stream is limited. Another tourist season is being lost as we speak. The regime claimed before the uprising it has $18 billion of foreign reserves. It is said it is eating thru half a billion dollars per month from these reserves. The french foreign minister recently estimated that the regime had eaten up half of its reserves. Recently, according to a report, the regime has been caught unsuccessfully trying to sell it's gold reserves at a lower than market rate in Dubai. This reveals it is running out of money. The syrian pound reached 100 per dollar earlier this year, half it's original value, until the central bank pumped some dollars in to stabalise it.

Oil was another important source of revenue which is said to have collapsed. It was predicted to account for 25.1% of state revenue in 2010. Iran has been helping sell syrian oil. many people were no longer paying taxes or gas/elecctricity bills.

How long can Iran keep financially helping the regime or help sell syrian oil when it has it's own financial problems with sanctions and difficulty in selling oil. A recent report claimed Iranian tankers were parked up in the persian gulf and used to store oil it couldn't sell.

The syrian people regard those who supported the regimes slaughter of the people; Russia, Iran and Hezbolla as enemies. A future Syria will very likely be anti-Russia, Iran and Hezbollah.


And pro-west , believe me the west has already its hands on this revolution. Look at how it is arming the rebels, giving them equipment. The rebels self may not know, but the top leaders really know about the fact that they get arms from the west and arab puppets.

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Some coincidences:

- Each friday demonstrations are given a different name. The recent friday was named
"The command of Allah is coming, so be not impatient for it."

- On the same friday (27/4) Sheikh Nazim received visiting members of the Hashemite Royal family in cyprus. The Sheikh advised King Abdullah to prepare for Syria and revealed:

"He was hesitant, but support is coming, support is coming for His Majesty to make a move..."

- While these words are being uttered, we hear the sound of the call to prayer breaking out in the background. *


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Syrian opposition leader says he wants peace with Israel

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Following on from 3 posts up about the Isreali position.

I paid a visit to the UK Stop the War Coalition site for syria related articles. I already knew that they support neither side but oppose foreign intervention. I came across an interesting interview with activist Tariq Ali from last december. He is someone who I agree with on certain other issues. At least he appears to be balanced on this issue. Listen out at the end when he comments on the Isreali position. 4 and a half minutes long.

http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/video/1 ... n-in-libya

I also visited the Socialist Worker site for articles on syria and found some interesting info.

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Crisis deepens in Syrian cities
Tue 24 Apr 2012

by Simon Assaf

The arrival of United Nations observers has triggered a new round of protests in the Syrian cites that remain under siege. In return the cities of Idlib, Hama and Douma could face attacks by government forces.

Angry street confrontations continue in Aleppo and Damascus, and significant protests have emerged in their industrial districts.

Young rebels on the streets are calling to be sent weapons—rather than calling for foreign support. A debate is raging over tactics, with the “peace camp” losing ground significantly.

An intense debate has broken out among the Shia Muslim clergy in its religious heart at Najaf, Iraq. A significant and vocal minority are citing Shia Muslim tradition of always siding with the oppressed, and want to issue a general call for solidarity with oppressed Sunnis in Syria.


http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=28251


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The article includes a video that shows footage of the protest encountered by the Sky News team.

Syrian Regime Confiscates Sky News Camera

Tuesday May 01, 2012

A television camera belonging to Sky News has been confiscated by Syrian officials after the crew filmed an impromptu protest in the capital, Damascus.

Sky News foreign affairs editor Tim Marshall, reporting from the city, said: "We were filming near a statue in the centre of town and about 20 activists started a protest near us.

"They walked through traffic, not stopping it, and went on for about four minutes.

"Suddenly guys ran out from the court building with truncheons and guns and a lot in plain clothes.

"A uniformed officer with a machine gun approached us and violently ripped the camera away from us.

"There was a struggle between us and the policeman. He then ran off down the road with it and I subsequently followed the policeman.

"More armed men with truncheons later came out towards my two colleagues, who were taken into the court building.

"I could see them heading towards my colleagues and so I slipped away, a couple of streets, to get this news out."

The officers' actions are in direct contravention of the six-point peace plan formulated by UN and Arab League envoy, Kofi Annan.

The peace plan allows for unfettered, free access for journalists who have visas.

Marshall and the Sky News team have been filming in Damascus and other areas in Syria with full credentials, filming permits and media visas.

"It is a contravention of the six-point peace plan on two counts," Marshall said.

"Firstly not to allow journalists to film freely and secondly, not to allow demonstrations."

Later, Marshall tweeted that the security official responsible was low ranking and senior staff subsequently apologised and released the Sky team.

http://news.sky.com/home/world-news/article/16219728


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Following on from 3 posts up about the Isreali position.

I paid a visit to the UK Stop the War Coalition site for syria related articles. I already knew that they support neither side but oppose foreign intervention. I came across an interesting interview with activist Tariq Ali from last december. He is someone who I agree with on certain other issues. At least he appears to be balanced on this issue. Listen out at the end when he comments on the Isreali position. 4 and a half minutes long.

http://stopwar.org.uk/index.php/video/1 ... n-in-libya

I also visited the Socialist Worker site for articles on syria and found some interesting info.

Quote:
Crisis deepens in Syrian cities
Tue 24 Apr 2012

by Simon Assaf

The arrival of United Nations observers has triggered a new round of protests in the Syrian cites that remain under siege. In return the cities of Idlib, Hama and Douma could face attacks by government forces.

Angry street confrontations continue in Aleppo and Damascus, and significant protests have emerged in their industrial districts.

Young rebels on the streets are calling to be sent weapons—rather than calling for foreign support. A debate is raging over tactics, with the “peace camp” losing ground significantly.

An intense debate has broken out among the Shia Muslim clergy in its religious heart at Najaf, Iraq. A significant and vocal minority are citing Shia Muslim tradition of always siding with the oppressed, and want to issue a general call for solidarity with oppressed Sunnis in Syria.


http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/art.php?id=28251



Masha'Allah the man in the first vid is right :) You have the armed groups(inciting civil war), the REAL opposition and the syrian army wreak havoc and when the west invades the revolution is lost, lets hope the west won't invade Insha'Allah

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Masha'Allah the man in the first vid is right :) You have the armed groups(inciting civil war), the REAL opposition and the syrian army wreak havoc and when the west invades the revolution is lost, lets hope the west won't invade Insha'Allah


About the 'armed gangs' narrative and how we got here I'll leave to one side.

Here is a more recent interview with Tariq Ali on RT from Feb 2012. Not very good listening for Assad. Check out the video and the text.

‘Assad must go to save Syria from intervention’
15 February, 2012

[Selected quotes]

“He has to be pushed out,” Tariq Ali insists, for which “the Syrian people are doing their best”.

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The expert says both Assad and his father have spilled enough Syrian blood and that “this family is unacceptable”.

....

“If the Assad clan refuses to relinquish their stronghold on the country, sooner or later something disastrous will happen,” Tariq Ali predicts,...

....

“The fact is that the overwhelming majority of people in Syria want the Assad family out – and that is the key thing that we have to understand and he [Assad] should understand,” Tariq Ali claims.

http://rt.com/news/syria-assad-ali-resign-361/


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That's manifestation of the reality of their supporters: al-Saud, Qatar, Jordan, Turkey, etc.
But sometimes reality is too vivid and people can't see it.

I love verses 51-56 of chapter al-Maa'ida. Is it a coincidence that exactly those people that have missed the significance of verses 55, have also lost track of the other verses in that range??? (specifically verse 51)

يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ لَا تَتَّخِذُوا۟ ٱلْيَهُودَ وَٱلنَّصَـٰرَىٰٓ أَوْلِيَآءَ ۘ بَعْضُهُمْ أَوْلِيَآءُ بَعْضٍۢ ۚ وَمَن يَتَوَلَّهُم مِّنكُمْ فَإِنَّهُۥ مِنْهُمْ ۗ إِنَّ ٱللَّهَ لَا يَهْدِى ٱلْقَوْمَ ٱلظَّـٰلِمِينَ
O ye who believe! take not the Jews and the Christians as your wali (friends and protectors): They are but friends and protectors to each other. And he amongst you that turns to them (for friendship) is of them. Verily Allah guideth not a people unjust.


فَتَرَى ٱلَّذِينَ فِى قُلُوبِهِم مَّرَضٌۭ يُسَـٰرِعُونَ فِيهِمْ يَقُولُونَ نَخْشَىٰٓ أَن تُصِيبَنَا دَآئِرَةٌۭ ۚ فَعَسَى ٱللَّهُ أَن يَأْتِىَ بِٱلْفَتْحِ أَوْ أَمْرٍۢ مِّنْ عِندِهِۦ فَيُصْبِحُوا۟ عَلَىٰ مَآ أَسَرُّوا۟ فِىٓ أَنفُسِهِمْ نَـٰدِمِينَ
Those in whose hearts is a disease - thou seest how eagerly they run about amongst them, saying: "We do fear lest a change of fortune bring us disaster." Ah! perhaps Allah will give (thee) victory, or a decision according to His will. Then will they repent of the thoughts which they secretly harboured in their hearts.

وَيَقُولُ ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوٓا۟ أَهَـٰٓؤُلَآءِ ٱلَّذِينَ أَقْسَمُوا۟ بِٱللَّهِ جَهْدَ أَيْمَـٰنِهِمْ ۙ إِنَّهُمْ لَمَعَكُمْ ۚ حَبِطَتْ أَعْمَـٰلُهُمْ فَأَصْبَحُوا۟ خَـٰسِرِينَ
And those who believe will say: "Are these the men who swore their strongest oaths by Allah, that they were with you?" All that they do will be in vain, and they will fall into (nothing but) ruin.


يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ مَن يَرْتَدَّ مِنكُمْ عَن دِينِهِۦ فَسَوْفَ يَأْتِى ٱللَّهُ بِقَوْمٍۢ يُحِبُّهُمْ وَيُحِبُّونَهُۥٓ أَذِلَّةٍ عَلَى ٱلْمُؤْمِنِينَ أَعِزَّةٍ عَلَى ٱلْكَـٰفِرِينَ يُجَـٰهِدُونَ فِى سَبِيلِ ٱللَّهِ وَلَا يَخَافُونَ لَوْمَةَ لَآئِمٍۢ ۚ ذَ‌ٰلِكَ فَضْلُ ٱللَّهِ يُؤْتِيهِ مَن يَشَآءُ ۚ وَٱللَّهُ وَ‌ٰسِعٌ عَلِيمٌ
O ye who believe! if any from among you turn back from his Faith, soon will Allah produce a people whom He will love as they will love Him,- lowly with the believers, mighty against the rejecters, fighting in the way of Allah, and never afraid of the reproaches of such as find fault. That is the grace of Allah, which He will bestow on whom He pleaseth. And Allah encompasseth all, and He knoweth all things.

إِنَّمَا وَلِيُّكُمُ ٱللَّهُ وَرَسُولُهُۥ وَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ ٱلَّذِينَ يُقِيمُونَ ٱلصَّلَوٰةَ وَيُؤْتُونَ ٱلزَّكَوٰةَ وَهُمْ رَ‌ٰكِعُونَ
Your only wali is Allah, His Messenger, those who believe, those who keep up prayers and pay the poor-rate while they bow.



وَمَن يَتَوَلَّ ٱللَّهَ وَرَسُولَهُۥ وَٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ فَإِنَّ حِزْبَ ٱللَّهِ هُمُ ٱلْغَـٰلِبُونَ
As to those who take as their wali Allah, His Messenger, and the believers,- it is the fellowship of Allah that must certainly triumph.

يَـٰٓأَيُّهَا ٱلَّذِينَ ءَامَنُوا۟ لَا تَتَّخِذُوا۟ ٱلَّذِينَ ٱتَّخَذُوا۟ دِينَكُمْ هُزُوًۭا وَلَعِبًۭا مِّنَ ٱلَّذِينَ أُوتُوا۟ ٱلْكِتَـٰبَ مِن قَبْلِكُمْ وَٱلْكُفَّارَ أَوْلِيَآءَ ۚ وَٱتَّقُوا۟ ٱللَّهَ إِن كُنتُم مُّؤْمِنِينَ
O ye who believe! take not as wali those who take your religion for a mockery or sport,- whether among those who received the Scripture before you, or among those who reject Faith; but fear ye Allah, if ye have faith (indeed).

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So what al-assad exactly is doing is getting into power till the west invades? Does sound, legit to me. The oppostion doesn't want the west. But still i don't like the rebels get armed by saudi-qatar government.

Syrian President Bashar Assad should resign if he doesn’t want to repeat the fate of Iraq’s Saddam Hussein and Libya’s Muammar Gaddafi, while Russia and China should help him to do so, the Middle East expert Tariq Ali told RT.
British historian and journalist Ali considers it unlikely that Syrian president will step down on his own accord.
“He has to be pushed out,” Tariq Ali insists, for which “the Syrian people are doing their best”.
Pressure is being mounted outside Syria by Turkey and NATO for intervention – that would be disastrous and bring enormous bloodshed, like in Libya, believes Tariq Ali.
The expert says both Assad and his father have spilled enough Syrian blood and that “this family is unacceptable”.
“Syria needs a non-sectarian national government to prepare a new constitution," Tariq Ali stressed.
He expressed hope that all the most influential parties, like Russia, China, Iran and even Hezbollah must realize that it is time for President Assad to go and to do so, no peacekeeping force is needed.
Tariq Ali agrees that mounting international pressure on Bashar Assad is needed because simple economic sanctions will not bring the desired results. Countries like Iran and China would not abide them, so it is time for Russia and China to realize they need Assad no more.
He believes that once Assad falls, the new government will keep good relations with Iran, because this will be in the interest of the new democratic government.
“If the Assad clan refuses to relinquish their stronghold on the country, sooner or later something disastrous will happen,” Tariq Ali predicts, threatening a foreign intervention and recalling the inglorious deaths of Saddam Hussein and Muammar Gaddafi lynched by mobs inspired by the west.
“That is the future that stares them in the face, there is no other future,” Tariq Ali said.
“The fact is that the overwhelming majority of people in Syria want the Assad family out – and that is the key thing that we have to understand and he [Assad] should understand,” Tariq Ali claims.
He also warns about letting Islamists of the Muslim Brotherhood take control of the Syrian government. Even if it becomes a moderate one, religious minorities will most probably be targeted to divert attention from economic and social problems.

http://rt.com/news/syria-assad-ali-resign-361/

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If the west would have interest to invade Syria or fall off Assad they already woulld did it like Gaddafi in Libya. Also I dont think Assad will give up, he will end up like Gaddafi. He is in an one way situation.

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If the west would have interest to invade Syria or fall off Assad they already woulld did it like Gaddafi in Libya. Also I dont think Assad will give up, he will end up like Gaddafi. He is in an one way situation.


The west is preparing for it believe me ;) Syria has already being on their target for decades. But they just need to convince russia and china. Like before the libya war it took a while before russia and china said ''ok''. Whole syria is in chaos now, let the people decide and not the west or arab league. When syria gets invaded the whole regio will be burning. And immediately hezbollah and iran will respond to it.

Al-assad was always a ally of the west but he refused to step down as the west ordered to him, so now they want to get rid of him.

went their puppets start their own power, they will get rid of them, simple. Look at saddam hussein and gadaffi. Gadaffi wanted to change its currency and create libya's water project. So libya needed to get invaded. Both were dictators, but they started to stop listening to their bosses.

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and for what reason they should invade syria you think?

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and for what reason they should invade syria you think?


Al-assad was always a ally of the west but he refused to step down as the west ordered to him, so now they want to get rid of him.

when their puppets start their own power, they will get rid of them, simple. Look at saddam hussein and gadaffi. Gadaffi wanted to change its currency and create libya's water project. So libya needed to get invaded. Both were dictators, but they started to stop listening to their bosses. Its kinda complicated to think about, but the west wants to replace the current syrian regime into a real western-puppet regime, which will stop the arms flow to hezbollah and hamas. Allahu Alim.

If the west invades, a really big bloodshed will come, even more bigger then it is now. The opposition clearly stated that they don't want foreign powers to invade, but yes, the west won't listen. The elite won't....

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But they would not invade syria nor they would not spend one cent to fall off Assad, maybe Israel & USA. The arab league will finance it all.

The only reason to fall off Gaddafi was the oil. Syria has not much oil, so its not worth to invade it or send troops there.

It will be not easy to get an UN resolution to occupy Syria coz not everyone is a zionist in the EU left out Russia and China.

And when Assad is away, only then time will tell if Zionist can create a second Iraq. It can be also possible that there will be muslims at power like in egypt. The arab league will not make it easy for Zionist.

I think after Assad there will be not chaos in Syria, maybe after a few years but not yet. I can be wrong, the chanes are 50 : 50.

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Esma-ul Husna wrote:
But they would not invade syria nor they would not spend one cent to fall off Assad, maybe Israel & USA. The arab league will finance it all.

The only reason to fall off Gaddafi was the oil. Syria has not much oil, so its not worth to invade it or send troops there.

It will be not easy to get an UN resolution to occupy Syria coz not everyone is a zionist in the EU left out Russia and China.

And when Assad is away, only then time will tell if Zionist can create a second Iraq. It can be also possible that there will be muslims at power like in egypt. The arab league will not make it easy for Zionist.

I think after Assad there will be not chaos in Syria, maybe after a few years but not yet.


Syria has not much oil yes, but its strategic location is hugee. Russia and china are just playing the good guys, also they are controlled by the same elite, the same bankers, and i don't think they will do anything when syria gets invaded. When the west controlls syria, it controlls the whole region, hezbollah will weaken and hamas will weaken. The only fear for the west is the muslim brotherhood rising in egypt, also maybe a reason why israel is deploying its troops at the sinai border now. Well when al-assad is away it depends: By the people or by the west. If its by the west or any foreign intervention i fear the outcome will not be good, if its done by the people then i will have hope.

Prophet Muhammed(Saw) always prayed this:

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(7) Narrated Ibn 'Umar: (The Prophet) said, "O Allah! Bless our Sham and our Yemen." People said, "Our najd as well." The Prophet again said, "O Allah! Bless our Sham and Yemen." They said again, "Our najd as well." On that the Prophet said, "There will appear earthquakes and afflictions, and from there will come out the side of the head of Satan." (Book #17, Hadith #147)


So you see, he always prayed for sham and yemen, the yemen uprisings have a good effect, the yemenis are sick of the US backed government there, there is much media silence but more yemenis are joining the mujahideen and demanding shariah law. Hence the increasing drone strikes and operations by the USA/yemeni forces. I believe there is a hadith about that 12,000 men will advance from yemen. Allahu Alim.

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Scholars understand the (spiritual) causes of the situation and where the solution lies.

Sheikh Yaqoubi is a supporter of the revolution and is aware of the need to remind and guide the people where necessary. Here is his latest update on facebook (Tue 1/5/2012):

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Guidance – Has Victory Been late?

Sh. Muhammad Al-Yaqoubi

There is question that arises sometimes after a year has passed since the revolution began, with months passing as if today is tomorrow and yesterday is today.

As some people like to talk about victory as right granted to them or inherited and must therefore be given to them without any efforts or struggle. They do not mind having it on a plate of gold.
I say: victory is a right that is earned and attained, and is not given but after by jihad and patience and is not reached but through sacrifice.

No one is qualified for victory through fear and laziness nor by wishful thinking and hopes, but by courage, altruism and struggle.
One year of Jihad is a short period of time for someone who accepted to live for forty years under humility and oppression without changing anything.

One year of supporting Allah does not compare to fifty years of heedlessness from Allah and failure to support his religion.
The answer that solves the problem is summed up in one word:
Victory is not late; our work for is late.
The struggle is from us and the victory is from Him; the former is a result of the latter. This is a Divine Law in the universe.
He told us about it in the Holy Quran when He said: “If ye help Allah, Allah God will you!”

In His words, “If ye help” He points out to our duty of work for to Allah, in Allah and for Allah. This is the support for religion, for blood and wealth, for the oppressed and the humiliated.
In His word, “He Will Give you victory” glad tidings coming fro Him even when we are few in numbers, weak or lack the means.

And between understanding His signals and His tidings the balance has been broken. We kept busying ourselves in what He promised us while we forgot what He demanded from us. No wonder we have reached this state, begging for victory without efforts and wanting a change with no sacrifices.

I am not talking about the position of individuals, but I am talking about the position of a nation and a people, Moving to overthrow the regime is still limited to a select group of people of conscience and courage, and the rest of the masses are yet waiting and waiting.
We want these masses to come out in millions to participate in the uprising waiting and fulfill their duties of support.

In a nutshell, victory is linked to every individual in this country feeling the necessity to work hard and struggle day and night till we reach a moment when we are qualified for victory.

Then, we can see victory very close to us, which is a reality Allah told us about {Your support from Allah is imminent}.
This will not happen, as we see it, except when the throats of the silent people shouts in the streets “Death but not humiliating”.
It will happen when hundreds of thousands of people sets out to the streets of Damascus saying in loud voices Allah-u Akbar, Allah-u Akbar. Then and only then, our eyes shall have the pleasure of seeing victory.

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1975, king faysal last official words ...





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an Islàmic revival,

that is not influenced by nationalism, racism, or sectarism ...

but only an Islàmic Call.



= this, for to say that we're thrown into an another attempt to dig our own division, with calls in order to differentiate Brothers according to his group, sunni, shia ... etc ... don't you see ?

the calls for pure Islàmic Revival, in unity, whatever your tendency of Hadith Sources, to free our Holy Lands from oppressors cannot last more than 3 days.


i know, i'm repeating myself, but just for you to not forget this israelian analysis of arab spring:


The picture is clearing up. The Arab spring is an Arab disaster. In the coming years there will be no democracy in Egypt. The choice in Egypt will be either chaos, Islamic dictatorship or military dictatorship. In the coming years there will be no democracy in Syria. The choice in Syria will be either a bloodbath, an Alawite dictatorship or a Sunni dictatorship. In the coming years there will be no democracy in Jordan. The choice in Jordan will be either weakened Hashemites, the Muslim Brotherhood or Palestinians. In the coming years there will be no democracy in Libya. There the choice will be disintegration, disorder or renewed despotism. Perhaps in Tunisia a real change for the better will occur.

But the bottom line of the Arab spring is that the lives of hundreds of millions of Arabs will be worse. More poverty, more crime, more fear in the streets. More oppression of women, more persecution of minorities, more hatred of the West. Monarchies like Saudi Arabia, which thwarted the Arab spring - are now emerging as responsible states. In contrast, the republics defeated by the Arab spring are turning one after the other into failed states. They are tainted with fanaticism, spreading misery and creating unprecedented instability.


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Your victory is near, PM tells Syrians in Turkey
May/07/2012

Visiting a border camp in the southern Gaziantep province which shelters Syrians who fled violence in their country, PM Erdoğan strongly challenges the al-Assad regime and delivers a message of support to migrants

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Turkey will continue to support the Syrian people and take care of refugees until the regime is defeated, Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdoğan said yesterday as he hailed a looming victory for the opposition during a visit to a border camp where thousands of displaced Syrians take shelter.

“Your victory is not far away. Brutality is not eternal. All those pharaohs and dictators in the past paid the price for their brutality and passed away, leaving an indelible black stain,” Erdoğan told refugees in the so-called “container city” near the Öncüpınar border crossing in the southern Anatolian province of Gaziantep.

The premier visited the camp amid tight security measures, on the eve of today’s parliamentary election in Syria, which President Bashar al-Assad’s regime has portrayed as a sign of its willingness to carry out reforms.

His speech frequently interrupted by cheers, Erdoğan vowed that Turkey would continue its efforts in the international arena to drum up support against the regime. “Bashar is getting weaker each and every day. The curses of my Syrian brothers will not be left unanswered. God willing, those who brutalize our brothers will be held accountable,” Erdoğan said. “Your suffering is our suffering. Your troubles are our troubles. Don’t lose hope. Turkey will stand by you until the end. And I believe and I pray that Allah is also with you.” Standing next to him atop a bus, Erdoğan’s wife Emine Erdoğan was seen shedding tears.

Several people reported hearing gunfire on the Syrian side of the border during Erdoğan’s speech.
Speaking earlier in the day at a congress of his Justice and Development Party (AKP) in the city of Gaziantep, Erdoğan voiced confidence that al-Assad would go “sooner or later.” “God willing, a new process will sooner or later begin in Syria in which all Syrians will have sovereignty. We will continue to defend the rights of our brothers there and to host those of them who have come here until the will of the people comes to power in Syria,” he said.

Waving Turkish flags and chanting anti-Assad slogans, hundreds of refugees greeted Erdoğan at the camp, while some children brandished posters left over from the AKP’s 2011 election campaign. Deputy Prime Minister Beşir Atalay, Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu and five other ministers accompanied the Prime Minister.

Erdoğan pledged that Turkey would continue to take care of the refugees until they decide to return of their own will and in safety.

The “container city,” run by the Turkish Red Crescent, is currently home to about 9,600 Syrians, nearly half of them children, who have fled the unrest in their country. Located just across the Öncüpınar border crossing, it is the camp where fire from the Syrian side left several people injured last month, prompting harsh Turkish warnings to Damascus. It is the most organized and well-equipped camp, where the refugees stay not in tents but container homes with kitchens, bathrooms and bedrooms. It also has kindergartens and social facilities where the refugees can watch television and use computers and washing machines. The authorities have allowed three shops to open inside the camp, where the refugees will soon be able to do shopping with special chip cards that they will be issued. The camp has a capacity to accommodate a total of 12,000 people.

At the AKP congress, Erdoğan also rejected opposition criticism that the government’s policy of “zero problems with neighbors” had collapsed, vowing that Ankara would not stay silent in the face of oppression and injustice in the region. “We stand by our policy and insist on ‘zero problems.’ Zero problems does not mean turning a blind eye to brutality, oppression and bloodshed. Zero problems does not mean staying mum and bowing down in the face of injustice,” he said.
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