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"Shajar hay firqa arayee, ta’assub hay samar iska
ye wo phal hay jo jannat se nikalwata hay adam ko"
Allama Muhammad Iqbal
"These divisions are the branches of a tree; its fruit is prejudice. This is the fruit which gets Adam (man) expelled from Jannah (peaceful life)."

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the same applies to the various religions, especially the abrahimic religions.

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my video got deleted and i hate it when im looking at old posts and the videos arent there, so just keeping maintenance


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Inshallah we will be united and stand against Dajjali Prapaganda....

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the thing which has divided them is "AQEEDA"... some follow desires and some follow what is revealed.... bitter fact is no common ground can unite them due to difference of opinions except if Allah Wills....


Here is how you disprove that argument:

lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadun rasūlu l-Lāh

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insha wrote:
Hammy wrote:
the thing which has divided them is "AQEEDA"... some follow desires and some follow what is revealed.... bitter fact is no common ground can unite them due to difference of opinions except if Allah Wills....


Here is how you disprove that argument:

lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadun rasūlu l-Lāh



i think you dint understand what i meant... let me elaborate... sad but true one read lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadun rasūlu l-Lāh, but still have faith on "FAIRYTALES".. again... sad but true who read lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadun rasūlu l-Lāh but still does not obey Allah and His Messenger (saww).... just for name sake... once again... sad but true who read lā ʾilāha ʾillà l-Lāh, Muḥammadun rasūlu l-Lāh but still believes in Sects and like to be called like that way... need more?

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Hammy, dear muslim brother...

Understand that when you call another Muslim a Kafir - that accusation is returned to one of you... and if you are basing your accusation without any strong facts which can be presented in a court of shariah law - to back up your claim, then by default, that insult which you directed to another - of being a kafir, will be returned to you.

Far as I can see, you provide no evidence - and just post sectarian hate mongering posts here. I wonder if you have seen my brother bushwackks series - The Hate Mongers Amongst Us ??? I tell you one thing, after watching that - it is you who will feel like he is living in a fairytale.

Fix up my brother, and don't look foolish on this forum again, ok?

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Hammy, dear muslim brother...

Understand that when you call another Muslim a Kafir - that accusation is returned to one of you... and if you are basing your accusation without any strong facts which can be presented in a court of shariah law - to back up your claim, then by default, that insult which you directed to another - of being a kafir, will be returned to you.

Far as I can see, you provide no evidence - and just post sectarian hate mongering posts here. I wonder if you have seen my brother bushwackks series - The Hate Mongers Amongst Us ??? I tell you one thing, after watching that - it is you who will feel like he is living in a fairytale.

Fix up my brother, and don't look foolish on this forum again, ok?

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did i call someone kafir??? name that guy or girl whom i said so.... Ah! and what if i present evidence, they will be removed because here when the ship is sinking all run away... Alhamdulillah i can easily point out those deeply engrossed fairytale people with evidence but that will be against someones faith and as i said those things will be lost and the one who deletes makes fool of him/herself... :D

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@Hammy
Basic fundamental beliefs of all the muslims are the same:
1) Belief in the existence of One God or the Oneness of God (Tawheed)
2) Belief in His Angels.
3) Belief in His Books.
4) Belief in the Prophethood of the prophets.
5) Belief in the Day of Accountability/Judgement..

So this disproves ur view about difference in basic fundamental beliefs...we all are united at the basic level.

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Basic fundamental beliefs of all the muslims are the same:
1) Belief in the existence of One God or the Oneness of God (Tawheed)
2) Belief in His Angels.
3) Belief in His Books.
4) Belief in the Prophethood of the prophets.
5) Belief in the Day of Accountability/Judgement..

So this disproves ur view about difference in basic fundamental beliefs...we all are united at the basic level.



Well said Lion heart... We Muslims are like a body... So dont sperate parts from main body... Do we have any other option left, to survive in dis dajjali World? Our enemy is Same... Our Leader (Imam e Mehndi elah salam) is same.. then Why we are seprate? We both are waiting for same things...then why we hate each other? Why?

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@Hammy
Basic fundamental beliefs of all the muslims are the same:
1) Belief in the existence of One God or the Oneness of God (Tawheed)
2) Belief in His Angels.
3) Belief in His Books.
4) Belief in the Prophethood of the prophets.
5) Belief in the Day of Accountability/Judgement..

So this disproves ur view about difference in basic fundamental beliefs...we all are united at the basic level.



Well said Lion heart... We Muslims are like a body... So dont sperate parts from main body... Do we have any other option left, to survive in dis dajjali World? Our enemy is Same... Our Leader (Imam e Mehndi elah salam) is same.. then Why we are seprate? We both are waiting for same things...then why we hate each other? Why?


Just a correction bro, Our leader is Prophet Muhammad pbuh, Mahdi is not here yet bro so we cannot call him our leader. He is the helper of the Ummah, from the bloodline of the Prophet pbuh. And he is a very important figure - who has yet to appear.

But all we need to know, was already taught us by our beloved Prophet Muhammad pbuh. This is the Sunnah we follow, the mahdi AS will also follow the sunnah of the Prophet Muhammad pbuh. So Muhammad is the leader in that regard.

Mahdi will be amir al mu'mineen when he is given bayyat, until then - he is just a man that is hidden from those who wish him harm. Even he doesnt suspect that he could be the mahdi AS. Just wanted to clear this up.

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This short film targets the dis unity that exists between all Muslims, by focusing on the situation of Shia / Shitte and Sunni Muslims in Islam.

This video is simply asking for peace, nothing more, nothing less. If we both read the same book, have the same Messenger, worship the same God let us live in peace. This video is not asking nor encouraging to adopt each others beliefs.


All our differences in the end will be judged by Allah who is the "All knowing" and "The best Judge" 34:26 Holy Quran

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@Hammy
Basic fundamental beliefs of all the muslims are the same:
1) Belief in the existence of One God or the Oneness of God (Tawheed)
2) Belief in His Angels.
3) Belief in His Books.
4) Belief in the Prophethood of the prophets.
5) Belief in the Day of Accountability/Judgement..

So this disproves ur view about difference in basic fundamental beliefs...we all are united at the basic level.

:salaam: bro lionheart, perhaps I have to add another point that we must belief in Qadr (i.e. Predestination) in each person. One can't change his destiny unless Allah alters it out by that man's effort, right? :D

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Let me help you guys.... Iman mufassal is what you are looking for:

Belief in:

    Allah
    Allah's craetion (angels/jinn),
    the books of Allah,
    the messengers of Allah,
    the last day (Qiyamah),
    Qadr,
    and resurrection/afterlife.

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Brother Scimi, thankyou for your clearification... Inshallah Our shia and sunni brother will be unite as one Ummah... Inshallah next part is coming... on 1st june... and will inshallah remove differences between shia and sunni and We should all try our best to become One ummah... Inshallah...

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insha wrote:
Let me help you guys.... Iman mufassal is what you are looking for:

Belief in:

    Allah
    Allah's craetion (angels/jinn),
    the books of Allah,
    the messengers of Allah,
    the last day (Qiyamah),
    Qadr,
    and resurrection/afterlife.



Mashallah, Well said Professor Insha P.H.D (Notepad :D ) :P

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that was a gr8 video, however in this video brother Pyrrhic i was wondering the believe of 12 Imams and as they are "Masoom" according to shia ideology, i dont understand the concept... "Masoom" is only our Prophet Muhammad (saww) and all others Prophets (as) before our Prophet (saww)... visiting shrine is prohibited i dont know it was said both sects agree that, for Salaah i heard Shia's pray only 3 times, i was confused when this sheikh said shia also pray 5 times... with all due respect can you pls clarify these misunderstanding among these 2 sects?


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