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Salam peeps, I found this on another forum and thought it was very interesting.

First things first: A'ishah, may Allah be pleased with her, reported:
Allah's Messenger (may peace be upon him) was asked about Al-Bit' (an intoxicant prepared from honey), whereupon he said: Every drink that causes intoxication is forbidden.

Hadith number in Sahih Muslim [Arabic only]: 3727

now the key word here is obviously intoxication.

Cannabis is a NON-TOXIC substance. One hundred per cent of the scores of studies by American universities and research facilities show that toxicity does not exist in cannabis. (U.C.L.A, Harvard, Temple, etc.)

all the in-depth medico-scientific clinical studies conducted (for example, US-Jamaican, US-Costa Rican, LaGuardia, etc) have revealed that cannabis contains no addictive properties in any part of the plant or its smoke, so, unlike and in contrast to tobacco, alcohol, and all the legal or illegal 'recreational' substances cannabis is both non-habit-forming and non-toxic. Therefore cannabis is uniquely safe. In this Report, let it be unequivocal and clearly understood that the use of "safe" in the context of cannabis use, by definition means,: "free of danger, risk or injury".




Also while I was in Amsterdam last year in the cannabis museum I found out that in our brain we have a unique THC receptor, the only other thing with THC is cannabis. Therefore we have been given by God a specific part of our brain that interacts with THC to make us feel high. All other "intoxicants" cause a toxic change in the brain that throws you off balance cannabis does not do this.


I found this in another forum very interesting:


Bismillaah ir-rahmaan ir-raheem
Al-hamdu lillah
Allahumma salli ala Nabi Muhammad wa ala ali Nabi Muhammad
As-salaamu laykum wa rahmatullahi wa barakatuhu

Dear Brothers and Sisters in Islam;
The arguments scholars use to conclude that hashish and other substances such as tobacco, khat, caffeine, such and such run various lines of reasoning. My point is not to make intoxicants lawful nor to state that harming oneself is lawful. The point is to prove that the arguments against some substances have no basis in the evidences or result from interpretations of the evidences that are so broad that any conclusion can be true within these misinterpretations. Let us examine the first kind of bad reasoning.
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COLLIERS ENCYCLOPEDIA
-subsection on Drug Addiction

MARIJUANA, the North American homologue of hashish or Indian hemp, has gained in popularity among addicts, particularly during World War II. Its relative cheapness, the fact that the plant flourishes anywhere in the United States from open fields to window boxes, the case with which it can be used as a smoke (rather than the painful, possible infective, and expensive hypodermic), and its allegedly stimulating effects all account for its usage. Another physiological phenomenon is the relative harmlessness, other than photophobia (pathological sensitivity of the eyes to light) which accounts for so many marijuana addicts constantly wearing dark glasses. Other than this, none of the ravages to health, such as are common in morphinism, are encountered. A certain amount of eventual depravity and some depression may be found, but how much of this constitutes overt expressions of the original personality cannot be gauged. After two or three cigarettes, the addicts experiences decreased power to control his actions and thoughts; the mental confusion is followed by euphoria, a feeling of increased power and ability. Illusions are common, as are pleasing, fanciful hallucinations. Disorientation and delirium my ensue. Under the influence of marijuana violent acts have been committed, including homicide, sexual orgies, and gruesome sadistic acts.


Please also read (and check out the table) on the following site:

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/taxact/marihuanalarmingmenace.htm


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Roqayah wrote:
COLLIERS ENCYCLOPEDIA
-subsection on Drug Addiction

MARIJUANA, the North American homologue of hashish or Indian hemp, has gained in popularity among addicts, particularly during World War II. Its relative cheapness, the fact that the plant flourishes anywhere in the United States from open fields to window boxes, the case with which it can be used as a smoke (rather than the painful, possible infective, and expensive hypodermic), and its allegedly stimulating effects all account for its usage. Another physiological phenomenon is the relative harmlessness, other than photophobia (pathological sensitivity of the eyes to light) which accounts for so many marijuana addicts constantly wearing dark glasses. Other than this, none of the ravages to health, such as are common in morphinism, are encountered. A certain amount of eventual depravity and some depression may be found, but how much of this constitutes overt expressions of the original personality cannot be gauged. After two or three cigarettes, the addicts experiences decreased power to control his actions and thoughts; the mental confusion is followed by euphoria, a feeling of increased power and ability. Illusions are common, as are pleasing, fanciful hallucinations. Disorientation and delirium my ensue. Under the influence of marijuana violent acts have been committed, including homicide, sexual orgies, and gruesome sadistic acts.


Please also read (and check out the table) on the following site:

http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/hemp/taxact/marihuanalarmingmenace.htm



I am aware of all the illuminati propaganda that say cannabis is illegal, causes you to go crazy kill ppl etc etc but thats all it is "propaganda" My mum and dad both smoke weed they have done since they were young and they are not murders they're not crazy etcetc they're perfectly normal just like countless other people i know that smoke weed.

We are told in islam that for every disease there is an equal PLANT cure, cannabis is a PLANT not a drug.


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In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

Drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, opium, etc are all unlawful (haram) due to the various harms connected with them.

Marijuana is a psychoactive drug made from the leaves of the cannabis plant. It is usually smoked but can also be eaten. It is the most commonly used and considered to be a soft drug.

Marijuana intoxicates a person the same way alcohol does. It weakens one


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[quote="Roqayah"]In the name of Allah, Most Compassionate, Most Merciful,

Drugs such as marijuana, cocaine, opium, etc are all unlawful (haram) due to the various harms connected with them.

Marijuana is a psychoactive drug made from the leaves of the cannabis plant. It is usually smoked but can also be eaten. It is the most commonly used and considered to be a soft drug.

Marijuana intoxicates a person the same way alcohol does. It weakens one


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Brother,I did read the post (twice)

How are you to know this is not a backwards plot? Meaning the Illuminati wish to make something haram,halal?

Please read the fatwa I provided:
The evidence for its being forbidden is the report narrated by Ahmad in his Musnad and by Abu Dawood in his Sunan with a saheeh isnaad from Umm Salamah (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade all kinds of intoxicants and relaxants. The scholars said that relaxants are things that cause drowsiness and languor in the limbs. This hadeeth indicates that hasheesh in particular is haraam, because it intoxicates and relaxes, which is why those who consume it sleep a great deal. Al-Qaraafi and Ibn Taymiyah narrated that there is scholarly consensus that it is haraam and said: The one who regards it as permissible is a kaafir. He said: The only reason why the four imams (may Allaah have mercy on them) did not speak of it is that it was not known at their time, rather it only appeared at the end of the sixth century AH and the beginning of the seventh century when the Tatar state emerged. End quote.

The source is in the link I gave.


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I saw a program that said canibus isn't toxic but once it is burnt it is a toxin. Who knows...who cares? I've done it before I was muslim, some of my non muslim friends do it. Alhamdulillah I left that behind....It doesn't bring nearness to Allah nor does it facilitate nearness to Allah in my understanding so why do it? I'm not going to bother to say halaal or haraam..I'm no scholar..I'm not going to bother to produce any daleels ...I'm just going to ask why bother?

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I agree.
What is the point in smoking? What does in produce? What does it do for you or your life that would indeed bring your closer to Allah s.w.t?

Be it Cannabis,Hooka (Argileh) or plain cigarettes.

Allahu A3lam.


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Roqayah wrote:
Brother,I did read the post (twice)

How are you to know this is not a backwards plot? Meaning the Illuminati wish to make something haram,halal?

Please read the fatwa I provided:
The evidence for its being forbidden is the report narrated by Ahmad in his Musnad and by Abu Dawood in his Sunan with a saheeh isnaad from Umm Salamah (may Allaah be pleased with him) who said: The Messenger of Allaah (peace and blessings of Allaah be upon him) forbade all kinds of intoxicants and relaxants. The scholars said that relaxants are things that cause drowsiness and languor in the limbs. This hadeeth indicates that hasheesh in particular is haraam, because it intoxicates and relaxes, which is why those who consume it sleep a great deal. Al-Qaraafi and Ibn Taymiyah narrated that there is scholarly consensus that it is haraam and said: The one who regards it as permissible is a kaafir. He said: The only reason why the four imams (may Allaah have mercy on them) did not speak of it is that it was not known at their time, rather it only appeared at the end of the sixth century AH and the beginning of the seventh century when the Tatar state emerged. End quote.

The source is in the link I gave.
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Ok cool I am simply just trying to find out the truth and I can't seem to find anywhere in hadith or quran that specifically states it being haram.

It's not an intoxicant, the THC in the cannabis directly interacts with the THC receptor in the brain. No toxic changes it isn't an intoxicant.

Why do we have a THC receptor in the brain? why was cannabis made?

Book 41, Number 5022:
Narrated Tikhfat al-Ghifari:
Ya'ish ibn Tikhfat al-Ghifari said: My father was one of the people in the Suffah.
The Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) said: Come with us to the house of Aisha. So we went and he said: Give us food, Aisha. She brought hashishah and we ate


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Roqayah wrote:
I agree.
What is the point in smoking? What does in produce? What does it do for you or your life that would indeed bring your closer to Allah s.w.t?

Be it Cannabis,Hooka (Argileh) or plain cigarettes.

Allahu A3lam.



It has many benefits just look them up there's looooadsss. It also helps people open their minds up, leads to better conversation and people can be more open with thoughts. Before i converted i used to smoke weed and many of my convesrations that opened my eyes up to islam were had while i was high.

Not everything brings you closer to god doesnt make it haram all i wanna no is if its haram or not


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bro its not about "toxic" or not.. I do believe Hasheesh is haraam. The prophet(pbuh) said anything which causes bad health or deterioration in health is haraam. Also, it makes feel "dizzy", so does alcohol, thus are all forbidden..

Take a simple example on all the prophets.. just visualize prophet Solomon is enjoying a hasheesh.. this is wrong bro!! This has no place in the society, and this is one of the reasons why Islam is "weaker" because the youths are drowned in hasheesh and alcohol..


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Brother,
You can say that Cannabis is good for this or that - but in reality those who casually smoke it are not doing so in order to cure/stop/halt cancer or even improve their health.

http://www.nida.nih.gov/infofacts/marijuana.html

"A study of 450 individuals found that people who smoke marijuana frequently but do not smoke tobacco have more health problems and miss more days of work than nonsmokers.Many of the extra sick days among the marijuana smokers in the study were for respiratory illnesses."

Many would disagree with your stand on what Cannabis is capable and incapable of doing.

But like I (along with the other brother stated)
What does this drug (and yes I shall stand by that view) do to bring you closer to Allah s.w.t?


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ReAlLuMiNaTi wrote:
Not everything brings you closer to god doesnt make it haram all i wanna no is if its haram or not


Akhi...if you wish to know the status of halaal or haraam. I beseech you to leave the internet and go find a living person who is knowledgeable. I swear you can find people calling halaal things haraam and haraam things halaal alllllll over the internet. They give daleels all over. The internet is cool but life is better to take your deen from. That is just my sincere advice brother.

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well speaking from my own life and experiences all the weed smokers that I know are MUCH more open minded that the ones who don't.

I would probably not have discovered so much about Islam that led me to convert if it wasn't for my debates and discussions that I had while I was high, it makes you ponder alot more and makes you much more open minded.

maybe it is haram I STILL don't know, but i do know that it played a big role in opening my mind up to islam.


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TheManOfReal wrote:
ReAlLuMiNaTi wrote:
Not everything brings you closer to god doesnt make it haram all i wanna no is if its haram or not


Akhi...if you wish to know the status of halaal or haraam. I beseech you to leave the internet and go find a living person who is knowledgeable. I swear you can find people calling halaal things haraam and haraam things halaal alllllll over the internet. They give daleels all over. The internet is cool but life is better to take your deen from. That is just my sincere advice brother.



Haha I know this brother, I'm not asking anything that's related to MY deen.

I just wanna know if its haram or halal.


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Alhamdulillah I have never smoked anything in my 19 years of life,and May Allah s.w.t keep me away from such things
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I went to high school in America,thus I knew what 'weed' was,I knew what it smelled of (since 40%+ were stoned/high half of the time) and there were situations that occurred on the campus that left no room in my mind for including Cannabis as something plausible or even sensible:
There was a student who was under the influence of Cannabis who decided to jump into a river - he drowned.

I have no personal experience with drugs,Alhamdulillah,but that does not mean I have to smoke/sniff (etc) to see the effects it has/may have on a population of people.

As teenagers and children we are pushed into a silent notion of conformity which includes the use of illicit drugs - then we are told that there is no error since the items in question are "natural" thus making it easier to fall into the trap that the Western world has cleverly laid out for us..

I for one see nothing natural about using Cannabis or any illicit drug for that matter.


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Alhamdulillah I have never smoked anything in my 19 years of life,and May Allah s.w.t keep me away from such things
But
I went to high school in America,thus I knew what 'weed' was,I knew what it smelled of (since 40%+ were stoned/high half of the time) and there were situations that occurred on the campus that left no room in my mind for including Cannabis as something plausible or even sensible:
There was a student who was under the influence of Cannabis who decided to jump into a river - he drowned.

I have no personal experience with drugs,Alhamdulillah,but that does not mean I have to smoke/sniff (etc) to see the effects it has/may have on a population of people.

As teenagers and children we are pushed into a silent notion of conformity which includes the use of illicit drugs - then we are told that there is no error since the items in question are "natural" thus making it easier to fall into the trap that the Western world has cleverly laid out for us..

I for one see nothing natural about using Cannabis or any illicit drug for that matter.


I fully understand what you are saying. But people drown without being on cannabis, if it's your time to go...it's your time go the weeds nothing to do with it.

I am not asking for advice or anything concerning my life or my deen.

I simply want to know, is that hadith I quoted authentic?? Why do we have a THC receptor in the brain specifically designed for cannabis consumption?

and are you saying that all fumigation with herbs is haram?


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ReAlLuMiNaTi wrote:
well speaking from my own life and experiences all the weed smokers that I know are MUCH more open minded that the ones who don't.

I would probably not have discovered so much about Islam that led me to convert if it wasn't for my debates and discussions that I had while I was high, it makes you ponder alot more and makes you much more open minded.

maybe it is haram I STILL don't know, but i do know that it played a big role in opening my mind up to islam.


i totally got your point bro, and i experienced similar stories as well.. but still, if u go deep in it, i dont think it is "halaal".. but anyway, God won`t punish His creatures for enjoying hasheesh.. it depends on how people think, some are open, others are "closed".. but i can even go to the extreme saying "God is universal, the prophet is, and the Koran is too, so why not us?" what im trying to say is from another angle, anything is possible in life.. but again, it depends in the relation you have with God..this is a one-to-one way with the Lord and He only judges..


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I cannot judge a hadith as authentic or not unless a scholar deems it this way or another.
I provided hadiths given as authentic that say otherwise when it comes to Cannabis.

As humans we die as willed by Allah s.w.t, but we are given 'freedom of choice' in how to spend those days that lead up to our death.

I am not judging you ekhi,Alhamdulillah - you are my brother in Islam and I only wish the very best for you.

Try asking a scholar at your masjid :)


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ArabianKnight wrote:
ReAlLuMiNaTi wrote:
well speaking from my own life and experiences all the weed smokers that I know are MUCH more open minded that the ones who don't.

I would probably not have discovered so much about Islam that led me to convert if it wasn't for my debates and discussions that I had while I was high, it makes you ponder alot more and makes you much more open minded.

maybe it is haram I STILL don't know, but i do know that it played a big role in opening my mind up to islam.


i totally got your point bro, and i experienced similar stories as well.. but still, if u go deep in it, i dont think it is "halaal".. but anyway, God won`t punish His creatures for enjoying hasheesh.. it depends on how people think, some are open, others are "closed".. but i can even go to the extreme saying "God is universal, the prophet is, and the Koran is too, so why not us?" what im trying to say is from another angle, anything is possible in life.. but again, it depends in the relation you have with God..this is a one-to-one way with the Lord and He only judges..



Thanks bro thats basically the same way I look at it. I believe that if it was THAT bad it would have been specifically mentioned and we wouldnt have to have this discussion lol!

I also dont think its right to devalue something as amazing and beneficial as the cannabis plant by calling it a drug. It is a plant..the only plant that has a male and a female, it produces hemp which is probably the best and most useful material in the world among many other things. It's a plant and it is Allahs living breathing creation we really shouldn't label Allahs creation as an Illeagal drug.


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